How to peacefully disband The Illegimate State of Israel

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17 Apr 2011, 11:57 pm

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using the OP's logic, why doesn't America give its land back to the Native Americans? i hope isreael NEVER gives up their land!

Russia and the United States ought to return Antarctica to the penguins as well. Also, amends ought to be made for the actions of Sir Francis Drake against the Penguin Empire.

I love how you compare Palestinian people to Penguins. It really shows what a crock of shoot the whole notion that Christianity is all about the universality of human rights and morality when a fundie is willing to laugh as men, women, and children are forced out of their homes.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:07 am

Master_Pedant wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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using the OP's logic, why doesn't America give its land back to the Native Americans? i hope isreael NEVER gives up their land!

Russia and the United States ought to return Antarctica to the penguins as well. Also, amends ought to be made for the actions of Sir Francis Drake against the Penguin Empire.

I don't know where you got penguins from, but I'm sure the penguins would be easier for the Israelis to make and keep a fair treaty with. As for the settlements, most of them were build on undeveloped property. The Palestinian villages that got bulldozed were rats nests of terrorist activity and home to many suicide bombers. Counterterror operations have nothing to do with Christianity.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:07 am

Master_Pedant wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

imbatshitcrazy wrote:

using the OP's logic, why doesn't America give its land back to the Native Americans? i hope isreael NEVER gives up their land!

Russia and the United States ought to return Antarctica to the penguins as well. Also, amends ought to be made for the actions of Sir Francis Drake against the Penguin Empire.

If you are an atheist, then you ought to consider humans and penguins as both merely animals. Why should you make any distinction? Sir Francis Drake, along with his crews, killed and ate thousands of Penguins. That would be completely reprehensible if humans did that to each other, wouldn't it? The Aztecs were cannibals prior to the Spanish conquests of Latin America, but I suppose that everyone of Spanish heritage ought to be sent back to Spain? The Judeans were forced from their homes and dispersed throughout the world by the Romans about two millennia ago and only had been able to return and re-declare their homeland as a UN recognized nation as of 1948, but you would implicate that their men, women, and children would need to be forced out of their homes while you laugh about how you think you're such a wiseguy by calling me a "fundie" and making statements about actions that you think I'd do.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:19 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Sir Francis Drake, along with his crews, killed and ate thousands of Penguins.

Now that add a whole new meaning to the slogan "P-p-p-pick up a Penguin!" that advertises a milk chocolate covered biscuit bars filled with chocolate cream over here in the UK called Penguin.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:24 am

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calling me a "fundie".

But you ARE a fundie.

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Russia and the United States ought to return Antarctica to the penguins as well.

Yes, but before that, the United States ought to return Texas to Mexico.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:24 am

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I'm sure the penguins would be easier for the Israelis to make and keep a fair treaty with.

Probably so,

Negotiator: "We give you fish if you don't try to kill us."

Emperor Penguin: "Yay fish!"

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18 Apr 2011, 1:29 am

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I've been jousting with this parakeet cretin for far too long off subject, concerning how I'm supposed to live in shame of being of German extraction.

Bill Kraichgauer

Look Bill, I don't care where you're from but having pride in the accomplishments of ones ancestors is stupid. The only accomplishments one should really be proud of are those that one accomplishes on their own. But if you glory in your heritage, then don't be surprised if people also don't like the negative accomplishments related to your heritage. And you cretinous wretch who would boast in being related to a people, I could also boast in being related to royalty and aristocracy dating back for more than a millennium upon my mother's side - but what good is boasting in something which one cannot select?

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May Israel have a long and happy life(!), and not have to give up a single inch of land, unless they choose to do it out of the goodness of their hearts out of pity for the Palestinian poor.

I agree with you there. May God continue to keep His promise to never leave nor forsake Israel and may those who curse Israel be cursed and those who bless Israel be blessed.

Who cares what I have pride in. A great deal of it is just an Aspie obsession with ancient Germanic antiquity. I had at one time had had an obsession with the Kennedy assassination - but who cares about that? So quit obsessing about my obsessions.
Just to let you know though, your long ago relative Marry Queen of Scots was such a murderer of Protestants that she would have killed your French Huguenot ancestors. Funny contradiction there.
And in regard to an observation by somebody else - I've already commented that your theology looks more like something an evangelical would dream up. So yes, you are very likely a fundie.
So in that case - - I got baptized as a baby, and I'm not born again, so HAH!

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18 Apr 2011, 3:04 am

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It's cool you have an obsession, and the Germans did build a lot of interesting castles, but it's not my obsession (well, castles have been previously, as well as ships. My wife's family had accidentally set their castle on fire once.) You seem to care what others think and really I don't like German culture or history that terribly much, so don't bother sharing your obsessions with me unless you really care to hear my "bigoted" opinion.

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18 Apr 2011, 4:27 am

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using the OP's logic, why doesn't America give its land back to the Native Americans? i hope isreael NEVER gives up their land!

Why? why do you care?

why does the OP want Israel to be disbanded?

Going with the leftest flow? Only they could really issue their thoughts or the thoughts of those that they agree with, but for many people a lot of it, I think, is just bandwagon mentality which is occasionally fed by selective journalism. It really stinks to have an enemy pick fights, but they never get reported, and then when defensive measures are taken the defensive measures are painted as "The Imperialistic Conquest Of The Universe!! !" when instead it's more a matter of stopping or reducing an ongoing threat as carefully as soldiers in a civic war zone can.

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18 Apr 2011, 5:02 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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using the OP's logic, why doesn't America give its land back to the Native Americans? i hope isreael NEVER gives up their land!

Why? why do you care?

why does the OP want Israel to be disbanded?

I think the OP is Lebanese and thinks that the unprovoked use of suicide bombers and barrages of artillery rockets is acceptable behavior, but firing back in self-defense is not.

Lebanon wouldn't get it's ass kicked from time to time if it would just leave Israel alone.

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18 Apr 2011, 5:18 am

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I think the OP is Lebanese and thinks that the unprovoked use of suicide bombers and barrages of artillery rockets is acceptable behavior, but firing back in self-defense is not.

Well, whether that's the thoughts of the OP I wouldn't know, but that seems to be the general notion of people who are against Israel. Of course they don't like words such as "unprovoked", so instead will provide some yammering about "freedom fighting" and the virtuosity of being "rebellious". Unprovoked is a proper word though, as is needless. If the peoples of Gaza or Jordan want land, Israel is willing to trade land for peace - but peace is too high a price for them.

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Lebanon wouldn't get it's ass kicked from time to time if it would just leave Israel alone.

Don't you know though, they don't mind getting their butts kicked so long as Israel gets painted as an Imperialistic Aggressor. Israel could kick orders of magnitude more butt than they do in self defense, but they don't. They could wipe out the entire region with neutron bombs and only get slightly worse publicity on CNN and the BBC, but they don't. Meekness is real strength, and for what Israel is forced to put up with Israel displays quite a lot of meekness.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:22 pm

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Trust me, there's plenty about Germany's history I don't like - but you have to take the good with the bad. And like I said, my obsession is with ancient Germanic antiquities.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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18 Apr 2011, 12:48 pm

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The good always comes with the bad. Ancient history in general is cool though.

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18 Apr 2011, 12:56 pm

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The good always comes with the bad. Ancient history in general is cool though.

Agreed.

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18 Apr 2011, 1:00 pm

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Israel has a neutron bomb? Somehow I doubt that. We know they have fission nukes. There is no evidence they have thermonuclear bombs. But it is possible. Could it be that Israel's Jewish physicists are better than our Jewish physicists?

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18 Apr 2011, 1:12 pm

I never got the chance to read the story in the recent issue of Time, as I was on a dead run with my five year old, but there is an article there about younger Palestinian activists who have forsworn violence, and are looking for constructive means of dealing with Israel. There may be hope, yet.

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