Why don't the faithful hold God morally accountable?

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Obviously you don't grasp the concept of a hypothetical situation then.

All right, here's a question, if you fear your god so much why do you ignore a rather impressive chunk of what he tells you to do?

I don't ignore anything he tells me to do not dong the things he said in the old testement will not make me a non believer that question. Has very little relevance I am a proestant we view the laws in the bible diffrently from Catholics who follow the whole book. And those laws btw that your speaking of where in effect befor the birth of Christ they where relevant because it was the only way to be forgiven of sins.

And I am a proestant we went through reformation to be more civil and less barbaric meaning those laws started playing less of a role in teh proestant church. And Catholics view you and me the same so not even my own ikind get along.

Show me where it says you don't have to follow the old testament. I can show you where the new testament says you must follow them:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Matthew 5:17-19 (King James)

Last I checked, the Earth is still here. That's Jesus talking, by the way. He's straight up telling you NOT to do what you're doing and ignore the OT, until heaven and earth are gone.

I think the idea of old vs. new is more about acknowledging the spirit of the law rather than the word. It's easy to follow the law to the letter, yet that often catches people in very minor and "pretend" offenses, but it is also wrong to fit the law to an individual circumstance. When the woman caught in adultery was brought before Jesus, he did not weight her guilt, or consider just what degree of guilt she had, he simply acknowledged the sin, and told to do it no more. Even then his coming death was used to free her from any punishment she might be due under the law.

How? He had never done wrong. This was probably through a series of conscious moves on his part, truly avoiding "sin". He did not deserve to be killed, yet he was. His innocent death replaces the death required from her guilt under the law. During his time even, if you could find someone to take your punishment, that's OK under the Roman law and Jewish custom. People even made money serving time for minor offenses for the rich.

Pretty much what Shrox said I agree with but to be honest a atheist telling me how to follow my religion which they don't believe in the first place is a fallacy.

No more of a fallacy than saying god is all knowing and such (which christians do all the time) and then saying "but I know better!", which they also do. All the time.

Personally, I find it quite funny.

Why can't God be all knowing? Yes, I realize this requires a supposition that he exists. So grant that, then answer.

The all knowing bit isn't what I find funny (granting god exists, him being omnipotent is kind of part of the job description). What I find funny, is the people who believe in him constantly trying to squirm out of many of his commands by essentially saying "no he didn't actually mean that, he can't of" which is *heavily* implying "it doesn't matter what he actually said, because I know better than what he said so I know what he really meant."

That's not funny, that's just...sad.

To you maybe, to me it's hilarious.

Because if "God" didn't work in "mysterious" ways, he'd just be the a**hole that created a world that naturally defaults to a state of misery after every good time.

You have forgotten to meniton his other children Jews and Muslims the diffrence between Christans and the view of the law is that being saved through Jesus christ is all that matters not bibcal laws.

People I've asked about this stuff on forums always revert to the definition of morality as compliance with the will of god (Hegelian philosophy does the same with the concept of history). In other words, god is good so long as he does as he wants, no matter what it is. I'm not sure if having to settle for something less than what he wants would be considered "evil" under this definition (e.g. him not wiping out the Jews apart from Moses and his immediate family because Moses wouldn't go along with it) but that's a minor issue.

I think even applying some conventional moral standard to god it's slightly more complicated than that. One would assume god takes the long view and would accept anything in order to achieve an ideal world in the very long run (if he wanted to actually accomplish that). Derailing history so that you can win the lottery isn't really justifiable in such a grand scheme if it ruins everything else.

Besides the theory of leading to "the best of all possible worlds"/heaven on earth, the other justification for the misery of existence is the afterlife, meaning that good is rewarded and evil punished in the afterlife so that on balance existence is not as unjust as it seems going by life on earth, where the good can suffer and the wicked prosper (some may also say that "life" is a brief part of one's existence).

Of we course, we can't find any better proof of this than that at best god told us so, and we would believe him because we have faith he is good.....which we know because we have faith in his promises that he fixes things in the afterlife.....which we believe because he is good........you can see the problem here. It's all rather circular and requires faith as a starting point, rather than having it as an end point.

If I have to completely let go of my very active inclination to always ask HOW or WHY everything is the way it is, then I don't see how I could be expected to embrace religion at all.

I was presumably created from scratch by this deity, complete with an inquisitive, curious personality, and every time I ask a question that I feel must have a perfectly good answer that is understandable to the human mind, I am told that I CANNOT understand the mind of god and that his ways are mysterious. This is in no way satisfying to me.
Am I to understand that god's lesson for me is to learn to humbly accept that there are thousands of questions not worth asking? Any deity would see that this is unacceptable to anyone with my kind of mind. It wouldn't have to be omniscious, even. Or perhaps that is the point. You HAVE TO be omniscious to see it, in which case I can't accept how my fellow humans seem to know his will about these things. And yes, "knowing" that you are not supposed to ask questions is a sneaky way of knowing god's will.

To me, it seems perfectly valid to BLAME god for a plane crash if it is valid to THANK him for saving the life of one of the passengers.

It seems perfectly valid to ask why there are 30,000+ species of Nematodes, over half of which are parasitic and cause slow, painful death for their presumably innocent hosts.

If I ever met god, I would also ask why my knees and lower back were constructed so stupidly. Ouch.

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