U.S. Gun Violence

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So you don't drive or ride in automobiles?

I'm not sure if I'll word this right,but isn't there one hand gun that if you are ballsy enough you can disable by pushing the barrel in?Someone showed me this and I can't remember which one it is.Not that it really matters,I'm just wondering.

Yes, it is possible on some semi autos such as a Glock. If the gun is even slightly out of battery the gun will not fire.

^^Thanks.

I feel the need to add the obvious "that's a really horrible idea and you should never, ever try it" disclaimer.

I don't plan on it I guess of you had to save a bus of toddlers from a shooter maybe someone would try,I doubt I'd be quick enough ,brave or foolish enough,or fast enough.

I have to drive a car for my job. And honestly I think it's only a matter of time before I get in an accident. I'm on the road way too much.

If you're close enough to get your hands on the gun, there are much better options that you can employ.

I’m just gonna nibble on a few of these.

1. Not everyone that is or was a doper lived in miserable conditions before they started. Some still don’t live in miserable conditions.
2. Guns appeal to a much wider spectrum of the population. Just because you’re a’feard of them doesn’t mean everyone else is. You actually know more gun owners than you think because not all of them advertise it. I know I don’t.


What is a “huge clip”? For that matter what is a "clip"?
Who is to say what I or any other citizen need for self-defense or just plain shooting?
And you end it by saying that an LA drug runner does need one.


So, in your mind, a pistol with a 7 or 8 round mag or a revolver is okey-dokey but one with a hi-cap mag 10+ is only for fighting off the Taliban?


In those relatively isolated cases I’ll leave it up to the individual to govern themselves accordingly. If they don’t then that’s a risk I’m willing to live with. What about these senile old biddies that are out on the highways killing people? I’ve had more close calls with them than I have with the wrong people having a gun.




And all the shooter has to do is pull the pistol back toward them a fraction of an inch and it's back in battery: BANG! It's more of a Hollywood stunt than anything. Theoretically, a Beretta 92 (M9) can be disabled by grabbing it around the slide and frame, pushing in on the take-down lever release on one side of the frame and pushing down the take-down lever on the other side then sliding the whole slide/barrel assembly forward off of the frame therefor disabling the weapon. I have enough experience with the Beretta and while this is the take-down drill, I defy anyone to try it while someone is doing their damnedest to kill them with said pistol.


Nambu's, especially 94's, are so rare that any safety issues with them are, for all practical purposes, a non-problem.

Last edited by Raptor on 20 Jan 2014, 7:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Any automatic using a tilting barrel design can be jammed this way, which is why you never stick one into someone's back like they show in the movies; they even make a little 'L' shaped device that attaches to the frame of the gun to prevent this from happening in a struggle. Getting a hand over the top of the gun is a better overall strategy though, depending upon the model you can jam the trigger, block the hammer, pull the slide out of battery, or prevent the cylinder from turning if it's a revolver, or just rip the thing out of the guy's hand using the barrel for leverage if you know what you're doing. Just don't try the Jackie Chan move of hitting the takedown lever and stripping the top half of the gun off, much better to break the guy's trigger finger with the disarm before you turn his own gun on him.

Do you see the problem with your argument now, or are you going to make me spell it out for you?

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And again, how much experience do YOU have with firearms to assume they are going to just going to discharge?

I keep a few cigarette lighters in one of my kitchen drawers. Are they going to start fires by themselves??

It was just on the news that e-cigarettes can catch on fire like a flare!Thats more dangerous than a holstered gun with the safety on.

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I'd want to see more evidence than just some news story. I suspect that the control freaks and health nazis are actively trying to get an angle on banning e-cigarettes because it is still smoking in their opinion, even though it's not. Sometimes I buy a pack of Marlboro's and smoke a few in public just because.....

I read an article about this topic a while ago. Although they said it is possible with a pistol, it should never be attempted with a rifle because the shooter has more leverage and can either step back (putting you back in the line of fire), or smack you with the but of the rifle. If all else fails chew the ba$tards eyes out ,and die in a way that will make the papers