Is Obamacare working ?
http://nypost.com/2016/11/01/heres-how- ... fects-you/
Here’s how the impending ObamaCare disaster affects you
Insured through work? The law forces employers to provide a one-size-fits-all benefits package costing much more than pre-ObamaCare coverage. The law also imposes a slew of new taxes. No surprise, employers are offsetting these costs by raising deductibles and reducing family coverage. In 2017, many companies will eliminate insurance for spouses.
Working part-time? Hundreds of thousands of workers have had their hours cut because ObamaCare requires employers to cover full-time employees, meaning those working 30 hours a week or more. Ironically, colleges, where Democrats outnumber Republicans, are major culprits, slashing hours for adjuncts and student workers to evade providing insurance.
Job-hunting? ObamaCare dampens the job market. In New York, 17 percent of service companies and 21 percent of manufacturers are reducing their workforces to stay below 50 full-time workers and dodge the employer mandate, according to the New York Federal Reserve.
Sixty-five or older? ObamaCare awards bonus points to hospitals that spend the least per senior. Researchers found that at 231 hospitals getting bonuses for low spending, seniors died needlessly because of inadequate care. For example, seniors having heart attacks were forced to wait too long for angioplasties and died before they could get the procedure....
A physician? Thank ObamaCare for the thousands of pages of new regulations dictating how you treat your Medicare patients. Precious minutes that could be spent talking to a patient are wasted filling out tedious, repetitive government forms. Physicians are glued to computer screens, following prompts instead of making eye contact with their patients and listening to them.
Refusenik? If you’re uninsured and refuse to buy ObamaCare, the average penalty is $995 per adult, $500 per child. Ouch.
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So you think they are obligated to die? You expect people in that position not to be offended when you want them to die? Just think about it for a second. What if you were disabled and couldn't find a job. Would you be willing to take a cyanide pill so your existence doesn't burden the rest of society? Sorry for putting it bluntly, but you just don't seem to be aware of what it is like for people who are less fortunate than yourself. Either that or you have no empathy whatsoever.
The argument that people are born with an obligation to others is anti-freedom.
It's a pro-slavery argument.
We need you black slaves to work building this ship, hey, you don't want white people to sink and die do you?? Don't you have any empathy?
Who will take care of the master's land? The master is eighty years old, poor, and disabled. What's wrong with you slaves? He could hurt himself and die. Where's your empathy?
Yeah, if the slave masters are so pitiful that they need to resort to slavery, then maybe they should die.
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
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What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Many people are slaves to the horror that life throws at them. You don't seem to comprehend that because you know nothing of horror or suffering. It's that "f**k you I got mine" spoiled overly privileged attitude. Your name is ironic as well.
Kraichgauer
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What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
Great question.
I believe people will voluntarily contribute towards helping others in need.
However, you first need to get some of the present taxes off their backs.
Kraichgauer
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Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Posts: 49,751
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
Great question.
I believe people will voluntarily contribute towards helping others in need.
However, you first need to get some of the present taxes off their backs.
Volunteerism, while good and noble, has never been able to reach everyone in need as the government can. Years ago, Reagan had had the hairbrained idea that the churches could easily replace federal care for the disabled, needy, and elderly. While that kind of talk might have appealed to Reagan's evangelical allies, Lutheran and Catholic church run social services informed the President that no, that was not at all possible. Luckily, Reagan chose to listen to those denominations that were of the saner varieties, namely the Lutherans and Catholics.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
Great question.
I believe people will voluntarily contribute towards helping others in need.
However, you first need to get some of the present taxes off their backs.
Volunteerism, while good and noble, has never been able to reach everyone in need as the government can. Years ago, Reagan had had the hairbrained idea that the churches could easily replace federal care for the disabled, needy, and elderly. While that kind of talk might have appealed to Reagan's evangelical allies, Lutheran and Catholic church run social services informed the President that no, that was not at all possible. Luckily, Reagan chose to listen to those denominations that were of the saner varieties, namely the Lutherans and Catholics.
If you're gonna rely on coercion, then expect people to complain about "moochers" and "freeloaders".
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
Great question.
I believe people will voluntarily contribute towards helping others in need.
However, you first need to get some of the present taxes off their backs.
Volunteerism, while good and noble, has never been able to reach everyone in need as the government can. Years ago, Reagan had had the hairbrained idea that the churches could easily replace federal care for the disabled, needy, and elderly. While that kind of talk might have appealed to Reagan's evangelical allies, Lutheran and Catholic church run social services informed the President that no, that was not at all possible. Luckily, Reagan chose to listen to those denominations that were of the saner varieties, namely the Lutherans and Catholics.
If you're gonna rely on coercion, then expect people to complain about "moochers" and "freeloaders".
Expect disabled people who you label "moochers" to HATE your guts and wish for you to contract some horrible disease so you know what it's like to not have a choice but to rely on others. Until then you will never understand.
Kraichgauer
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Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Posts: 49,751
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
What you're proposing is the freedom to die for those in need. With this Randian dystopia the right is obsessed with engineering for America, all talk for family/Christian values the right also espouses seems to have gotten tossed out the window... save for all the gay bashing in the name of Christ.
Yeah, those in need should die if they want to make slaves of others. I have no problem with that.
Obamacare is coercion.
Your argument of asking slaves, "where's your Christian values?" reminds of the movie, Blazing Saddles, when the grinning, white railroad boss asks his black workers, "where's your spirit"?
Then who's going to care for them? Obviously not the right, who have replaced Christ on the cross with Ayn Rand. The only people who complain about being coerced for taking care of those in need would never lift a finger to help the helpless in the first place.
And just what are Christian values, if not taking care of those in need of help?
Great question.
I believe people will voluntarily contribute towards helping others in need.
However, you first need to get some of the present taxes off their backs.
Volunteerism, while good and noble, has never been able to reach everyone in need as the government can. Years ago, Reagan had had the hairbrained idea that the churches could easily replace federal care for the disabled, needy, and elderly. While that kind of talk might have appealed to Reagan's evangelical allies, Lutheran and Catholic church run social services informed the President that no, that was not at all possible. Luckily, Reagan chose to listen to those denominations that were of the saner varieties, namely the Lutherans and Catholics.
If you're gonna rely on coercion, then expect people to complain about "moochers" and "freeloaders".
As long as I can call those name callers A$$holes and butt lickers.
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