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05 Apr 2012, 2:13 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

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I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

Well, for all your claims to be able to think like a woman..........I guess there are some things about women, or at least certain women that you will never understand. Most women like dominant men.

Most women? Are you an expert, too?

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05 Apr 2012, 2:14 pm

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I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

I know it's hard to understand. But for me, being a women, It's a very natural feeling. Like when men open doors for you. Help you carry heavy things. Pull your chair out for you to sit. Many women feel that this is a horrible thing for men to do! That it's not right for men to treat women like this because we are equal! But I like being treated like this. Why does it come so natural for men to do this and for women to be receptive of this attention. It all boils down to this: Men want to take care of women. And Women want to be taken care of by men! At least for me it rings true!

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05 Apr 2012, 2:15 pm

First of all, I'd like to say that the model that Ragtime and Mirror are describing is not exactly what I would consider (or have studied) the usual Christian model to be.

That being said, again, I would state that if it works for them and they are both happy, then it is not wrong.

I think it is making a large leap to assume that because Mirror is happy and wants this type of relationship, that it means she thinks ALL women should be this way. Their relationship may well be unique and, again, there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, if someone came to her and demanded that she be more dominant and stop listening to her husband, I contend that that behavior would be wrong.

Conversely, if she demanded that all women behave this way, it would also be wrong.

It is interesting to me to see an example of this type of relationship but does not in anyway affect how I feel about myself or other women because it is nothing more than a singular example of a relationship between two specific individuals and I'm very happy that it works for them. Would it work for me? Unlikely.

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05 Apr 2012, 2:15 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

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I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

Well, for all your claims to be able to think like a woman..........I guess there are some things about women, or at least certain women that you will never understand. Most women like dominant men.

Once again no most women do not like being dominated by men it's very demeaing and it's not a claim it's called being bigender and once again their you go making a speculation that MOST women like DOMINANT men which has no accuracy can you pleas give some form of source of proof to such a claim.

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05 Apr 2012, 2:17 pm

"Dominant" and "Domineering" are not the same thing.

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05 Apr 2012, 2:18 pm

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Yeah, It works for us!

I'm sorry if I seem to push my beliefs on you all but I'm just excited about sharing our lives and our "secret" to a happy marriage! ;^ ^ It works for us and feels so natural that I just assumed that many women out there have the same secret feelings as I do!

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05 Apr 2012, 2:20 pm

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"Dominant" and "Domineering" are not the same thing.

YES!! A "Dominant" is a strong, secure, level headed man. Someone who is "Domineering" is just an ass hole! :V

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05 Apr 2012, 2:20 pm

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I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

Clearly, that's true: you don't.

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05 Apr 2012, 2:21 pm

myth wrote:

"Dominant" and "Domineering" are not the same thing.

I agree pleas tell AspieRouge that :lol:

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05 Apr 2012, 2:25 pm

Joker wrote:

myth wrote:

"Dominant" and "Domineering" are not the same thing.

I agree pleas tell AspieRouge that :lol:

Note that I explicitly said dominant and not "domineering" :!:

Way to state the obvious, ppl. And Joker, I have no date regarding percentages but I certainly do know Puh-Len-Ty of women who like dominant men. It's really not that uncommon. WTF makes you think that all women are assertive the way many feminists are? :lol:

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05 Apr 2012, 2:25 pm

Mirror wrote:

Joker wrote:

I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

i am a woman and it does not come naturally to me. a major idea behind feminism is to move away from that model, so i would say that many women agree with the idea that men do not have to be dominant anymore. you may enjoy the relationship, but that does not make it natural.

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05 Apr 2012, 2:30 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

Joker wrote:

myth wrote:

"Dominant" and "Domineering" are not the same thing.

I agree pleas tell AspieRouge that :lol:

Note that I explicitly said dominant and not "domineering" :!:

A women can be a strong independent women and doesn't need a man to take care of them and not be a feminist you are saying that I think this I do not way to state a claim about me :lol:

And it is very uncommon now a days to say women like dominant men what do you mean but dominant? How would you describe a dominant man that women like?

This I got to read :wink:

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05 Apr 2012, 2:33 pm

hyperlexian wrote:

Mirror wrote:

Joker wrote:

I do not see how any women or wife would want a man to dominate her in any way shape of form.

Another thing this "disciplinary love" or whatever we are going to call it has resulted in is some women get offended by men doing "chivalrous" things. Why? Because they assume the male believes they are inferior and need to be taken care of, instead of just being a nice guy who was brought up to be a gentleman. Things like "Domestic Discipline" ruin the concept of the gentleman

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05 Apr 2012, 2:33 pm

I don't care if other women want to submit to men in one way or another. All I know is that I sure 'aint, and I don't want anyone else to be forced to, or even expected to, because it's the 'natural' way. So much of my natural ways of feeling and being seem to say 'balls to nature', which is funny since they come naturally to me. :lol:

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05 Apr 2012, 2:34 pm

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I don't see how behavior that is only a few thousand years old could be considered "natural", unless you think the world is only a few thousand years old.. oh, wait

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05 Apr 2012, 2:37 pm

Thats true I know I wouldn't either my mom would get pissed off if I did those things for her she is a very strong independent women that doesnt need a man in her life to take care of her.

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