hyperlexian wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If two people are equally qualified, but one is ultraviolet while the other is infrared and the one who is ultraviolet is selected due to merely being ultraviolet that is stupid. In such a case, it would be better to just flip a coin to determine who is selected rather than selecting based upon superficiality.
please refrain from insulting other people's ideas. the concept isn't
stupid, you just disagree with it. if it is difficult for you to debate the issue without insulting people's ideas, perhaps you should refrain from posting controversial topics.
Fine, it is wrong. It is invalid. It is unsound. It is improperly biased. When selecting based upon a partiality for a skin color or a genealogy, it is racism itself dressed up in another disguise. However, if coins or another device to produce equal probability outcome were utilized, then there would be no question of racism since the probability for both outcomes is equal rather than predetermined.
it isn't wrong, invalid, or unsound either - you just disagree with it. several people on this thread disagree with the idea that it is even considered racism. you might have used the incorrect word.
Demonstrate, in syllogism format, the soundness of argumentation for the preference of one person over another based upon superficial differences when both are equally qualified, if you don't mind. Otherwise, I will still say that it is unsound, lacking in cogency, irrational, and otherwise based upon racism. Your disagreement with me does not make me any less right and nor does your ad naseum baseless verbal negation of anything for which you are prejudicially opposed.
because those people are still disadvantaged in our society. they do not have the same opportunities since society is still racist against them.
so this helps to eliminate the racism. i said this already.seriously, though... lots of people have argued their opinions on this thread. do you actually not understand that you are arguing an opinion too? i do see that you do not believe that affirmative action or other programs should exist. you've also said why you think that is the case... but it is still
your opinion and is not based on right or wrong in this situation. neither is
my opinion based on right or wrong regarding this...
NO, it doesn't help to eliminate the racism at all. It feeds and encourages it. It promotes prejudice and the idea that minorities cannot get jobs based on their abilities or merits. It encourages an "Us vs them" mindset and a "coming here and taking our jobs" mentality. People who have lost out to this racial preferential treatment are not happy to have helped the poor oppressed whoever, they are monumentally cheesed off that they lost out because they weren't black enough. You can't FORCE racism out of people.
It isn't just employment that suffers in this preferential treatment. Recently a whole host of bullying cases were revealed to be racist acts perpetrated by Asian youths against whites SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE WHITE. The school in question had simply ignored the racial qualifier, which leads neatly to a miscarriage of justice and a Daily Mail headline. Yet the police have attended cases in PRIMARY schools when a white child has made a comment someone has deemed racist in the utmost of childish innocence. Such unbalanced treatment creates greater prejudice. There are numerous examples, thousands of them. Plenty have been quoted in this thread, and all of them point towards the fact that the Ethnic minority has received preferential treatment because of their ethnicity, and the white majority have felt mistreated, abused, and cast as second class. IT DOESN'T HELP. GET A BETTER SOLUTION.
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10 Sep 2010, 8:24 am
