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23 May 2013, 1:42 am

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The plural of anecdote... is not 'data'... unless you're on WP, then of course it is.


I'm afraid that's is not true.

Anecdotes can or can't be significatives.

At the end of the day, what a person says around him is a small sample of a population. So the issue is how significative can a small sample be. And it depends on which is the probability of this sample happening when you compare it with a general statement about the population.

For example: if you say 'there's a big population of balls and the same amount of white and black balls', and then you pick a sample of, let's say, 15 balls and all of them are black. This is an anecdote (15 balls among a huge population of them), but the probability of you getting those 15 black balls if the previous statement of equality between white and black ones is true, is less than 1/30,000. So yeap, anecdotes can be significatives.


There is one area where anecdotes are typically not significant are when accused criminals state they didn't do it. It's normal and expected for crooks not to admit their crimes. Which is why we have a judicial system.

A significant number of bank robbers claim they did not rob a bank. That's because criminals have an incentive to lie. Therefore, the word of accused criminals--until we have outside sources confirming their innocence-- means nothing.


I'm sorry, but I don't get the relation between bank robbers and statistics.


I don't see any relation between your post and the conversation about the silliness of relying on anecdotes.



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23 May 2013, 1:46 am

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The plural of anecdote... is not 'data'... unless you're on WP, then of course it is.


I'm afraid that's is not true.

Anecdotes can or can't be significatives.

At the end of the day, what a person says around him is a small sample of a population. So the issue is how significative can a small sample be. And it depends on which is the probability of this sample happening when you compare it with a general statement about the population.

For example: if you say 'there's a big population of balls and the same amount of white and black balls', and then you pick a sample of, let's say, 15 balls and all of them are black. This is an anecdote (15 balls among a huge population of them), but the probability of you getting those 15 black balls if the previous statement of equality between white and black ones is true, is less than 1/30,000. So yeap, anecdotes can be significatives.


There is one area where anecdotes are typically not significant are when accused criminals state they didn't do it. It's normal and expected for crooks not to admit their crimes. Which is why we have a judicial system.

A significant number of bank robbers claim they did not rob a bank. That's because criminals have an incentive to lie. Therefore, the word of accused criminals--until we have outside sources confirming their innocence-- means nothing.


Really? I thought it worked the other way, that they have to be proven to be guilty. And yes, I that criminals have the incentive to lie.


Let me simplify it for you: Anecdotes are useless. [Use] + [less]

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of no use; not serving the purpose or any purpose; unavailing or futile: It is useless to reason with him.
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without useful qualities; of no practical good: a useless person; a useless gadget.



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23 May 2013, 1:48 am

Innocent until proven (or rather shown) guilty is what I was taught, though.



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23 May 2013, 1:51 am

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Innocent until proven (or rather shown) guilty is what I was taught, though.


What does that have to do with anything?



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23 May 2013, 1:54 am

You quoted the following from Jono and seemed like you were dismissing it as wrong or not the rational way to go about it:

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Really? I thought it worked the other way, that they have to be proven to be guilty. And yes, I that criminals have the incentive to lie.



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23 May 2013, 2:03 am

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You quoted the following from Jono and seemed like you were dismissing it as wrong or not the rational way to go about it:

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Really? I thought it worked the other way, that they have to be proven to be guilty. And yes, I that criminals have the incentive to lie.


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I don't see any relation between your post and the conversation about the silliness of relying on anecdotes.



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23 May 2013, 2:22 am

http://femitheistreborn.blogspot.com/20 ... fined.html

:lol: I bet she has balls fetish.

She gotta catch em all! :lmao:



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23 May 2013, 2:33 am

Tyri0n wrote:
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There is one area where anecdotes are typically not significant are when accused criminals state they didn't do it. It's normal and expected for crooks not to admit their crimes. Which is why we have a judicial system.

A significant number of bank robbers claim they did not rob a bank. That's because criminals have an incentive to lie. Therefore, the word of accused criminals--until we have outside sources confirming their innocence-- means nothing.


I'm sorry, but I don't get the relation between bank robbers and statistics.


I don't see any relation between your post and the conversation about the silliness of relying on anecdotes.


I understand that. But it's not my fault if you don't have knowledge of statistics.


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23 May 2013, 2:46 am

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IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER (READ):

We are in no way affiliated with the Mainstream Feminists. Therefore, and in addition to what we have said before, our actions and the actions of the Femitheist movement shall reflect none upon them.

Anything that Mainstream Feminists do in relation to attacking or associating with Femitheism is their own responsibility. The New Era of Feminism refers entirely to Femitheism, and has nothing to do with Mainstream or Modern/Conventional Feminism.

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At least they're admitting to be a separate group tho.



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23 May 2013, 2:49 am

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http://femitheistreborn.blogspot.com/2012/09/international-castration-day-refined.html

:lol: I bet she has balls fetish.

She gotta catch em all! :lmao:


http://femitheistreborn.blogspot.com/20 ... n-day.html

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We are in no way affiliated with the Mainstream Feminists. Therefore, and in addition to what we have said before, our actions and the actions of the Femitheist movement shall reflect none upon them.

Anything that Mainstream Feminists do in relation to attacking or associating with Femitheism is their own responsibility. The New Era of Feminism refers entirely to Femitheism, and has nothing to do with Mainstream or Modern/Conventional Feminism.

It's as simple as that.

Thank you for reading.

Sincerely,
Femitheist


Fascinating. Amazing how the world has bad people of both genders.



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23 May 2013, 2:52 am

Greb wrote:
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Greb wrote:
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There is one area where anecdotes are typically not significant are when accused criminals state they didn't do it. It's normal and expected for crooks not to admit their crimes. Which is why we have a judicial system.

A significant number of bank robbers claim they did not rob a bank. That's because criminals have an incentive to lie. Therefore, the word of accused criminals--until we have outside sources confirming their innocence-- means nothing.


I'm sorry, but I don't get the relation between bank robbers and statistics.


I don't see any relation between your post and the conversation about the silliness of relying on anecdotes.


I understand that. But it's not my fault if you don't have knowledge of statistics.


What statistics? The % of MRA's who live in their parents' basements?



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23 May 2013, 3:09 am

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What statistics? The % of MRA's who live in their parents' basements?


C'mon. Do I have to explain the difference between one statistics and statitics as a branch of mathematics? Seriously? Is this the level of this debate? :roll:


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23 May 2013, 7:37 am

I'm glad this thread was made. It was like a ten page confirmation that MRAs/Misogynists are weak, sad people.


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23 May 2013, 7:58 am

Tyri0n wrote:
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You quoted the following from Jono and seemed like you were dismissing it as wrong or not the rational way to go about it:

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Really? I thought it worked the other way, that they have to be proven to be guilty. And yes, I that criminals have the incentive to lie.


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I don't see any relation between your post and the conversation about the silliness of relying on anecdotes.


Then why did you quote that as if you were dismissing it as wrong?



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23 May 2013, 8:00 am

Drinking misogynist tears for breakfast... makes a body strong.


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23 May 2013, 8:01 am

meems wrote:
Drinking misogynist tears for breakfast... makes a body strong.


?