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21 Jul 2013, 3:03 pm

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the phrase i meant was a new trial on new charges.i spoke wrong and i admitt.the only time a deffendent can be retried for the same crime is if the defendent did or paid someone else to bribe a judge,jurror or DA.

A retrial can happen if the original trial was declared a mistrial which is possible if there was a hung jury or some procedural error made the original trial a non-trial. Since no verdict was generated by the original trial and retrial can be attempted under the proper legal circumstance and if the prosecution is willing to undergo the expense and effort all over again.

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21 Jul 2013, 3:30 pm

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look up the harry allaman trial in chigaco on google.i dont have specific link

Im surprised there has been only one case of the kind. Googled as you suggested. Interesting case. I think there was a Law & Order episode based on it.

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21 Jul 2013, 6:53 pm

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we all know that,we were talking about double jeopardy not a hung jury

dont insult my intelligence,my brother was in the US attorney generals office.he is in private practice now

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21 Jul 2013, 6:56 pm

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look up the harry allaman trial in chigaco on google.i dont have specific link

Im surprised there has been only one case of the kind. Googled as you suggested. Interesting case. I think there was a Law & Order episode based on it.

There may be many more but i may not know about

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21 Jul 2013, 8:08 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

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we all know that,we were talking about double jeopardy not a hung jury

dont insult my intelligence,my brother was in the US attorney generals office.he is in private practice now

Double Jeopardy is prohibited under the bill of rights. Have you ever read it?

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22 Jul 2013, 1:59 am

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Rest assured, we have a healthy ratio of right wing gun nuts per head of population in Australia. I agree with NY Mayor Bloomberg that if guns were not freely available to mentally unstable individuals such as Zimmerman then tragedies such as these would not happen.

You have Zimmerman's psych profile?

Not his psych profile. Evidence for Zimmerman's state of mind indicates he was of unstable character to be playing with guns.
He was supposed to be on Alderall
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/ ... K220121018

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22 Jul 2013, 2:18 am

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You're saying that politically conservative gun owners are mentally unstable.

I think he's actually saying that all gun owners are mentally unstable, but then again this is the guy who thinks that there was a strong case against Zimmerman, except for the whole no witnesses or evidence thing... :roll:

I didn't say that...I said Zimmerman is mentally unstable

The only people who should legally own guns are the police, armed forces and security guards.

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22 Jul 2013, 2:56 am

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Dox47 wrote:

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You're saying that politically conservative gun owners are mentally unstable.

I didn't say that...I said Zimmerman is mentally unstable

The only people who should legally own guns are the police, armed forces and security guards.

the bill of rights says otherwise

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22 Jul 2013, 4:20 am

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The only people who should legally own guns are the police, armed forces and security guards.

Because making them illegal has worked so well for keeping drugs and alcohol away from people?

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22 Jul 2013, 4:25 am

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ADHD is now "mentally unstable? Given that you're an authority on absolutely nothing relevant here, I hardly think you're qualified to determine whether someone was medically qualified to carry a gun. I take a lot more meds than Zimmerman and I own so many guns I've lost track; are you going to say to my face that I'm dangerous and unstable?

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22 Jul 2013, 4:25 am

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The only people who should legally own guns are the police, armed forces and security guards.

Because making them illegal has worked so well for keeping drugs and alcohol away from people?

that and guns are really simple to make

people have been making guns with just a hammer and file

this is known as the slam bang shotgun its really popular in the Philippines it takes minutes to build and seconds to destroy

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22 Jul 2013, 5:18 am

ruveyn wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

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we all know that,we were talking about double jeopardy not a hung jury

dont insult my intelligence,my brother was in the US attorney generals office.he is in private practice now

Double Jeopardy is prohibited under the bill of rights. Have you ever read it?

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i said that, if you read my post

you bordering on personal harassment by not reading my posts then mocking me for things i did not say.i said the bribe acception is the only time a juries not guilty verdict can be reversed.your really getting on my nerves

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22 Jul 2013, 5:23 am

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that and guns are really simple to make

people have been making guns with just a hammer and file

this is known as the slam bang shotgun its really popular in the Philippines it takes minutes to build and seconds to destroy

You know I'm a gunsmith, right? Not that that stops pig ignorant people from trying to tell me my business, being knowledgeable about firearms on this board is like being a biologist at a creationism convention sometimes.

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22 Jul 2013, 5:47 am

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Saying what exactly to your face? I think you've been watching too many Clint Eastwood movies.
Zimmerman has prior;
he's been arrested for assaulting a police officer
http://www.examiner.com/article/george- ... es-dropped
He's been accused of domestic violence
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03 ... ficer?lite

Any reasonable minded person would not be allowing Zimmerman to play suburban vigilante with a loaded weapon.

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22 Jul 2013, 5:49 am

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Regardless of your "claims" as a bona fide gunsmith; I'd suggest you do something about your anger management issues...

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22 Jul 2013, 8:16 am

cyberdad wrote:

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Regardless of your "claims" as a bona fide gunsmith; I'd suggest you do something about your anger management issues...

I suggest you do something about your armchair psychiatry. Just because you don't agree with someone it doesn't mean they asked for your unprofessional diagnosis. It's a punk move, especially when you're doing it because you have an axe to grind rather than out of genuine concern.

By the way, there's a difference between a criminal record and an official history of mental instability. But I bet you knew that so you had to resort to ad hominem attacks since you couldn't rebut it.

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