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26 Dec 2015, 6:14 am

Btw it was Kermit Roosevelt, Jr who was involved with the real conspiracy along side the British to depose a democratically elected leader of Iran.



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26 Dec 2015, 6:17 am

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It seems possible or even likely that this country has been controlled by the CIA since at least 1980, Obama and his mother have a lot of CIA ties as well along with every president since Carter.

Which are?

Bush Sr. was the Director of Central Intelligence. He gave briefings to Carter.

He was the guy obsessed with Iran and Iraq.


Obama's connections to the CIA are more passing and based on profile, look up Obama's activities in the early 80s especially around his time in NYC. He did work for a CIA front company called Business International Corporation around this time, he traveled a lot out of the country notably to Pakistan in I think 1981. Ann Dunham was a Russian language speaker during the Cold War that lived under the CIA-backed dictatorship of Suharto and later in Pakistan; she was employed by USAID and the Ford Foundation which are frequently used by the CIA as a front.

We know the deal with Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush Jr so it is just connecting the dots with Barry. We might just get another Clinton added to that list too, totally owned and controlled.



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26 Dec 2015, 6:23 am

Can we talk about In-Q-Tel? Now THAT'S a front.


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26 Dec 2015, 6:27 am

Never mind some coup in Texas, I'm more concerned about what happened to Ché!


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26 Dec 2015, 6:38 am

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He did work for a CIA front company called Business International Corporation around this time, he traveled a lot out of the country notably to Pakistan in I think 1981.


We know that Business International Corporation was infiltrated by the CIA however this was exposed in the 70s.

Obama wrote financial reports. And the mother? Are these the same conspiracies that say that Ann Dunham is not his real mother?

I lived in Angola does make me or my father or mother a spy? I know people who visited or worked in Pakistan, does that make them spies too?

What is exactly the point of these various people from clear very different backgrounds cooperating with each other? Also they have clearly perused very different policy.



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26 Dec 2015, 6:42 am

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Then a bunch of sysadmins in Calgary, Ontario sit around sniggering at said operative's fathomless stupidity.

Calgary is in Alberta.



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26 Dec 2015, 6:51 am

Thanks! *fixed* I've only been to BC, hopefully I find time soon to see more of Canada...

Time for a 4AM snack & bed!


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26 Dec 2015, 6:54 am

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Thanks! *fixed* I've only been to BC, hopefully I find time soon to see more of Canada...

I've never been to the west coast, but it's on my bucket list. I hear it's gorgeous.



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26 Dec 2015, 8:43 am

Jacoby wrote:
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It seems possible or even likely that this country has been controlled by the CIA since at least 1980, Obama and his mother have a lot of CIA ties as well along with every president since Carter.
http://www.economist.com/node/1875084

It goes back even further. The CIA might have ultimately been responsible for the murder of an American President in 1963.


Probably, Jimmy Carter was more an interruption from business as usual after Watergate and the Church Committee.

Bush Sr was actually in Dallas that fateful day by the way...


And he was in Washington on 9/10/2001 at Carlyle group meeting which included Shafiq Bin Ladin
Osama's brother.
http://www.economist.com/node/1875084


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26 Dec 2015, 8:52 am

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He did work for a CIA front company called Business International Corporation around this time, he traveled a lot out of the country notably to Pakistan in I think 1981.


We know that Business International Corporation was infiltrated by the CIA however this was exposed in the 70s.

Obama wrote financial reports. And the mother? Are these the same conspiracies that say that Ann Dunham is not his real mother?

I lived in Angola does make me or my father or mother a spy? I know people who visited or worked in Pakistan, does that make them spies too?

What is exactly the point of these various people from clear very different backgrounds cooperating with each other? Also they have clearly perused very different policy.


You dismiss the idea too quickly, Ann Dunham screams CIA and unlike your family her child grew up to be the first black president. If somebody could of potentially been an asset to the agency and fits the profile then it's only natural to question. I don't believe that Obama was some sort of birthed Manchurian candidate but I think him and his mom had some friends in Langley, Virginia. I would say just judging by how Obama has utilized the agency which the public will be finding out about decades from now, I don't think it is a huge stretch to speculate.



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26 Dec 2015, 1:38 pm

When you form a secret group within government charged with putting on plays, they do.

There has been a lot on the web recently about Crisis Actors, now that we have image search. The same faces show up for various tragedies. At Sandy Hook a scene of people milling about in a parking lot, but from another angle, they were seen walking around the building in a line, coming out into the parking lot walking in many directions, then going back around the building and coming out again.

Adam was never seen on security video at the school, got through a security door, did not have his finger prints or DNA on the gun, but it did have the DNA of someone convicted of selling Heroin, facing 40 years, who also owned the car used to get to the school. The police were looking for two armed men in camo in fields around the school. They were seen leaving the school after the shooting.

The official story, it was a lone gunman.

These things seem to happen when some news bad for government comes out, and take over the 24/7 news cycle.

We live in a managed reality.



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26 Dec 2015, 7:27 pm

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When you form a secret group within government charged with putting on plays, they do.

There has been a lot on the web recently about Crisis Actors, now that we have image search. The same faces show up for various tragedies. At Sandy Hook a scene of people milling about in a parking lot, but from another angle, they were seen walking around the building in a line, coming out into the parking lot walking in many directions, then going back around the building and coming out again.

Adam was never seen on security video at the school, got through a security door, did not have his finger prints or DNA on the gun, but it did have the DNA of someone convicted of selling Heroin, facing 40 years, who also owned the car used to get to the school. The police were looking for two armed men in camo in fields around the school. They were seen leaving the school after the shooting.

The official story, it was a lone gunman.

These things seem to happen when some news bad for government comes out, and take over the 24/7 news cycle.

We live in a managed reality.


I put stock in some conspiracy theories, such as that regarding the Kennedy assassination, as the very public Pro-Castro communist, Lee Harvey Oswald, had had very secretive right wing associations with the CIA/mob backed Anti-Castro underground in the months preceding 11/23/'63. But I have never heard of any "evidence" pointing to a Sandy Hook conspiracy that hasn't been disproven as verbal sh*t spouted by nutbars bent on continuing the pain of mourning families.


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26 Dec 2015, 7:37 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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It seems possible or even likely that this country has been controlled by the CIA since at least 1980, Obama and his mother have a lot of CIA ties as well along with every president since Carter.


It goes back even further. The CIA might have ultimately been responsible for the murder of an American President in 1963.


Probably, Jimmy Carter was more an interruption from business as usual after Watergate and the Church Committee.

Bush Sr was actually in Dallas that fateful day by the way...



Whereas Bush Sr. had met with members of the Anti-Castro underground, imploring them for their their CIA handlers not to launch new attacks on Cuba, following Kennedy's assassination. We know this happened, because it was revealed in a document released by the Freedom Of Information Act. Bush Sr had always denied he was the same George Bush in the document, and that he hadn't yet been associated with the CIA. There was in fact another George Bush working for the CIA at the time, but this man was nothing more than a lowly analyst. Bush Sr can deny a relationship with the CIA at that time all he wants, but it's since been revealed that the agency made ample use of oil companies as fronts, and made use of the businessmen heading up those companies.


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28 Dec 2015, 3:31 am

It is not a single thing.

Jackie said LBJ had JFK shot. Oswald said he was set up. Being shot from behind does not cause you to fly backward.

Most think there were three shooters, and there was the Babuska woman, filming it with a better movie camera, got the best footage, but she and the film have never come forward.

Jack Ruby killing Oswald can not be explained in this reality.

Carlos Marcello had been deported by Bobby, reentered the USA, and no one ever said anything.

Deported mobster comes back lives out his life in the open near me. He knew Oswald and Ruby. He had made threats to kill JFK and RFK.

The FBI was an active part of the wh***y Boston mob. The CIA also maintains contacts within various organizations.

The Secret Service would have been along the route. A man shooting a rifle out of a sixth floor window would have been noticed, but no one went to secure the building.

I think Jackie had it right, LBJ had the most to gain.

None of the anti Castro Cubans were Cuban. Oswald handed out Fair Play for Cuba leaflets in New Orleans. Our DA, Jim Garrison found a lot of links to strange people, none were Cuban.

Who knows, but still, Trump should not have Cruz for a VP from Texas.

Also, there are reports of two Lee Harvey Oswalds. A look alike was tracked, and for a year he made sure he was known by name and noticed. They converge around the killing, then one vanishes forever.

I watched the video of people walking out of a building in Sandy Hook, milling about the parking lot, then going around the building and coming out again. They were like extras in a movie making up a crowd scene.

Oswald did not say he was innocent, he said he was being set up as the patsy. He knew the people he was dealing with.

So by the time we get to Iran Contra, and the Mena Airport, lots of bodies under Governor Clinton, again the line between Shadow Government and elected government blurs. There are enough facts to prove there were a lot more facts, and way too many suicides and accidental deaths.



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28 Dec 2015, 5:39 am

Ah. It would seem that Donald Trump has secured the support from another key demographic.

... Conspiracy theorists.

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