19 Oct 2016, 2:12 am
Shahunshah wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Honestly?
Totally, man. Totally. I'm a flippin' mess over here.
Honestly, I find it amusing. Perhaps it is smugness, but it's kind of hilarious to me when men think they have an opinion about women's health issues. The clock is never going to roll back on women's autonomy over their bodies, so observing men's "opinions" on the topic is amusing to me from a sort of anthropological standpoint. You think I'm all upset and worked up over here, and I'm laughing my ass off about it. That adds to the amusingness.
19 Oct 2016, 3:14 am
19 Oct 2016, 3:27 am
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Well lets think about judging from the fetus we can say that it is more than just a clump of cells what it forms is a human in early development I mean lets look at even by the earliest stages of abortion the first trimester, the Fetus will have begun to develop limbs and some of the recognizable features in human beings. The analogy of the chicken egg was weird since basically the fetus is already formed and fertilized by 4 days this is so much different from the chicken egg you do describe. With that in mind what right do we have to take away the life of a fetus. I mean think about it if their is no afterlife this will be the one chance this human has at existing. By killing of the fetus in the womb we are only taking that away and to be honest what right do we as people have to take away someone else's life without any consent?
You can say that the fetus has no feelings but knowing the fetus can have a good life like you and me is it still worth it? Essentially what we are doing in abortion is just denying any possibility of that happening. We are just taking away the individual's right to their life.
Well in the United States at the moment currently 10 states have no restrictions on late termination of pregnancies. In Australia where their are little laws against it around 4% of abortions take place after 20 weeks. Whilst we can say this a comparatively small amount we also cannot deny the fact that thousands of babies are dying every year in what is probably pain as a result of it.
You can say that the fetus has no feelings but knowing the fetus can have a good life like you and me is it still worth it? Essentially what we are doing in abortion is just denying any possibility of that happening. We are just taking away the individual's right to their life.
Well in the United States at the moment currently 10 states have no restrictions on late termination of pregnancies. In Australia where their are little laws against it around 4% of abortions take place after 20 weeks. Whilst we can say this a comparatively small amount we also cannot deny the fact that thousands of babies are dying every year in what is probably pain as a result of it.
They are not babies, they are fetuses. You seem to so fundamentally misunderstand basic reproductive biology that I almost feel guilty even responding to your anti-abortion "arguments" by showing you up--you've shown up to a gun fight with not even a knife but a child's sling-shot.
As long as women have to be the physical incubators of new life, we get to decide when it comes into the world and when it doesn't. That's never going to change. Why are you wasting so much "thought" on this argument? You can't win, the anti-abortion side can never win. Can you really not see that? Even as an intellectual exercise, arguing against abortion is a complete waste of time. You might as well go out into your yard and yell at the moon to fall out of the sky, it would serve just as much purpose as the argument you are trying to make so poorly here. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
19 Oct 2016, 4:35 am
wilburforce wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Well lets think about judging from the fetus we can say that it is more than just a clump of cells what it forms is a human in early development I mean lets look at even by the earliest stages of abortion the first trimester, the Fetus will have begun to develop limbs and some of the recognizable features in human beings. The analogy of the chicken egg was weird since basically the fetus is already formed and fertilized by 4 days this is so much different from the chicken egg you do describe. With that in mind what right do we have to take away the life of a fetus. I mean think about it if their is no afterlife this will be the one chance this human has at existing. By killing of the fetus in the womb we are only taking that away and to be honest what right do we as people have to take away someone else's life without any consent?
You can say that the fetus has no feelings but knowing the fetus can have a good life like you and me is it still worth it? Essentially what we are doing in abortion is just denying any possibility of that happening. We are just taking away the individual's right to their life.
Well in the United States at the moment currently 10 states have no restrictions on late termination of pregnancies. In Australia where their are little laws against it around 4% of abortions take place after 20 weeks. Whilst we can say this a comparatively small amount we also cannot deny the fact that thousands of babies are dying every year in what is probably pain as a result of it.
You can say that the fetus has no feelings but knowing the fetus can have a good life like you and me is it still worth it? Essentially what we are doing in abortion is just denying any possibility of that happening. We are just taking away the individual's right to their life.
Well in the United States at the moment currently 10 states have no restrictions on late termination of pregnancies. In Australia where their are little laws against it around 4% of abortions take place after 20 weeks. Whilst we can say this a comparatively small amount we also cannot deny the fact that thousands of babies are dying every year in what is probably pain as a result of it.
They are not babies, they are fetuses. You seem to so fundamentally misunderstand basic reproductive biology that I almost feel guilty even responding to your anti-abortion "arguments" by showing you up--you've shown up to a gun fight with not even a knife but a child's sling-shot.
As long as women have to be the physical incubators of new life, we get to decide when it comes into the world and when it doesn't. That's never going to change. Why are you wasting so much "thought" on this argument? You can't win, the anti-abortion side can never win. Can you really not see that? Even as an intellectual exercise, arguing against abortion is a complete waste of time. You might as well go out into your yard and yell at the moon to fall out of the sky, it would serve just as much purpose as the argument you are trying to make so poorly here. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
Their humans at a certain stage of development that's the thing. But nonetheless people just like us who have one chance in the world. Tell me why it is moral to take that away?
So what you are essentially advocating for the female's right to kill the young is that it?
19 Oct 2016, 4:41 am
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19 Oct 2016, 3:21 pm
You do love labouring in futility, don't you Shashashanashashanashashanashnusha?
19 Oct 2016, 6:19 pm
19 Oct 2016, 6:54 pm
Shahunshah wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Yes but even a baby with its instinct would be afraid of death and has a desire to live. What do you mean by the baby is not a person, the baby is capable of feeling pain and emotions two aspects that make us people.
But not the important one ... self-awareness.
Your statement makes no sense.
This comment is amusingly ironical. Thanks for the laughs, Shashashahshahsha!
19 Oct 2016, 7:41 pm
wilburforce wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Yes but even a baby with its instinct would be afraid of death and has a desire to live. What do you mean by the baby is not a person, the baby is capable of feeling pain and emotions two aspects that make us people.
But not the important one ... self-awareness.
Your statement makes no sense.
This comment is amusingly ironical. Thanks for the laughs, Shashashahshahsha!
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