Does anyone else agree with feminism?
Well it makes you a wussy, but now your mom will be all over me for saying it.
(Oops... that makes you a wussy too.)
He did ask me point-blank, hyper.
Real men have to LET their women do things!
YO MAMA. Bring me a sammich. Er. Somethin.
YO SISTER-wait...no...
No, I actually call her names so profane I can't mention them here, followed by "gimme a beer", but it's our little agreed-upon fun. She and her mom call each other b***h in passing and in fun -- it's their sense of humor.
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Is that the naked man wrestling? :V
I do both once I wrestled naked with a group of guys and always came out on top
I love how you have to claim "I'm not less of a MAN because I oppose sexism! Look at all this MANLY sh** I do."
What's funny is to define feminist as misandrist,
and then imply someone's not a "man" if he's for sex equality.
If that's anti-male, someone has a scary definition of "manhood".
It is like the whole "fy'all disagreein with the pres'dint, y'all dun be hatin 'merica"
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Pretty much.
I do not trust your promotion of ambivalence
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Is that the naked man wrestling? :V
I do both once I wrestled naked with a group of guys and always came out on top
I wasn't insulting. I was asking. I see nothing wrong with a man into manly sports! :V
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I love how you have to claim "I'm not less of a MAN because I oppose sexism! Look at all this MANLY sh** I do."
What's funny is to define feminist as misandrist,
and then imply someone's not a "man" if he's for sex equality.
If that's anti-male, someone has a scary definition of "manhood".
I was being sarcastic with him just because I do what people like to label as manly doesn't mean I don't desrcibe myself as a feminist which I do.
Ragtime would also say I am a wussy for the fact that I have sex with women or men seperatly or at the same time.
I was not bringing those thing's up to show how manly I am I do those thing's because they are my main interests as a aspie.
Well it makes you a wussy, but now your mom will be all over me for saying it.
(Oops... that makes you a wussy too.)
He did ask me point-blank, hyper.
Real men have to LET their women do things!
YO MAMA. Bring me a sammich. Er. Somethin.
YO SISTER-wait...no...
No, I actually call her names so profane I can't mention them here, followed by "gimme a beer", but it's our little agreed-upon fun. She and her mom call each other b***h in passing and in fun -- it's their sense of humor.
Yeah! My friends and I call eachother the C word and hoe and I call my mom b***h all the time and she calls me it too! It's all for fun! lol
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Is that the naked man wrestling? :V
Also extremely sweaty and oiled up?
Some times yes if the guy is hot enough
Joker, if you don't have anything to add, I'm sure both Vigilans and Valentine can manage to hold their own without their resident cheerleader.
I have plenty to add and I am no cheerleader either say what you want but why are you all so afriad of strong independent women and against womens rights in America and not just third world countries cheri.
I'm all for strong, independent women, but Western Feminists rarely are, they spend too much time complaining about how they are unable to do things because of the suppression they feel from a societal structure, which somehow generates a state of passive repression, all the while actual strong, independent, women are out doing all the things the Western Feminists complain about not being able to do. Funnily enough, and this is a personal observation, I deal with people from all over the world on a daily basis in my job, men and women. I've rarely met a feminist amongst the women who have gone far up the ranks of the corporate world, yet if I step onto a Campus anywhere in the Western World, you'd think that I'd made up the story about all those women who succeed in business.
I'm also all for equal rights, no exceptions. I'm even for equal pay for equal work, experience, competence and so on. I'm the actual gender equality advocate here, I'm for literal equality in every single respect, which means that a person should be treated as gender neutral in every respect. My main issue with "Western Feminism" is the preoccupation with a societal structure that supposedly represses them. This is a bit strange of a concept for me, since it requires a person to assume that a system can be innately repressive, even when laws dictate that that very repression is illegal. It becomes a bit like the government handing out automatic rifles after a full on weapons ban has been put in effect.
Overall, there is just a tendency to ascribe certain things to a bias against women before ruling out every other option. There is the obsessing with "gender-based" violence, when the focus should be on violence period. Furthermore, this has a way of drawing focus away from the men of the country, out of whom quite a few have it worse than the majority of women. It's one of those statistics things, where women tend to gather around the middle, whereas men are more spread out along the spectrum. I don't think there should exist anything like "Women's rights", there should just be "rights".
I suspect that what you refer to as "Strong, independent women" are in fact the type that I think of as "Martyrs".
The women in my family do not fit into your views of western women also my mother had the same job as my father and was payed more because she worked harder then my dad.
Also my cousin emily is a volentire firefighter and can run the course faster then the out of shape men she works with.
My sister is a cop and makes more arrests then most men do at her work.
I didn't say "Western Women" I said "Western Feminists", not all feminists are women and not all women are feminists. Your mother was paid more, because she worked more, if she had worked the exact same hours as him, would she have been paid the same money, because that's what equality means. It should also include being paid based on quality of work more than anything else. Does your cousin have to carry the same pack as the male firefighters? Furthermore, is making arrests the sole way to measure a cop's work? For all I know she could be putting hundreds of kids in Maximum Security prisons for smoking pot. I don't know, because you are telling a story according to your own subjective perception without fleshing out details.
Because women in third world countries are fighting to get their HUMAN rights, women in the western world are generally fighting for "WOMEN'S" rights. I don't view all women from the western world as one and the same, they are individuals. I just tend to side with the individuals that put in the time needed to reach their goal, rather than complain to have that goal made easier for them. To use your story about the firewoman and policewoman, in the country where I live, your firewoman cousin would carry a much lighter pack than her male counterparts and has a longer time to complete the course. Your cop sister, would get less strenuous physical tests than her male counterparts, meaning that she doesn't have to fill the same physical requirements to speed, conditioning and strength as her male colleagues.
So you must have a issue with westren feminists them I am one women in america still have to deal with a lot of social issues so I was rasied by my mom with no help from my dead beat father. just because women in america dont deal with the violence women deal with in third world countries doenst mean they don't deal with social issues of their own in america like my mother deals with in her daily life.
Everyone deals with social issues, being a woman dealing with social issues is no different than being a man dealing with social issues. Social issues affect EVERYONE, if you maintain that its worse when women have to deal with them, then you're more of a sexist than I am.
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Joker, if you don't have anything to add, I'm sure both Vigilans and Valentine can manage to hold their own without their resident cheerleader.
I have plenty to add and I am no cheerleader either say what you want but why are you all so afriad of strong independent women and against womens rights in America and not just third world countries cheri.
I'm all for strong, independent women, but Western Feminists rarely are, they spend too much time complaining about how they are unable to do things because of the suppression they feel from a societal structure, which somehow generates a state of passive repression, all the while actual strong, independent, women are out doing all the things the Western Feminists complain about not being able to do. Funnily enough, and this is a personal observation, I deal with people from all over the world on a daily basis in my job, men and women. I've rarely met a feminist amongst the women who have gone far up the ranks of the corporate world, yet if I step onto a Campus anywhere in the Western World, you'd think that I'd made up the story about all those women who succeed in business.
I'm also all for equal rights, no exceptions. I'm even for equal pay for equal work, experience, competence and so on. I'm the actual gender equality advocate here, I'm for literal equality in every single respect, which means that a person should be treated as gender neutral in every respect. My main issue with "Western Feminism" is the preoccupation with a societal structure that supposedly represses them. This is a bit strange of a concept for me, since it requires a person to assume that a system can be innately repressive, even when laws dictate that that very repression is illegal. It becomes a bit like the government handing out automatic rifles after a full on weapons ban has been put in effect.
Overall, there is just a tendency to ascribe certain things to a bias against women before ruling out every other option. There is the obsessing with "gender-based" violence, when the focus should be on violence period. Furthermore, this has a way of drawing focus away from the men of the country, out of whom quite a few have it worse than the majority of women. It's one of those statistics things, where women tend to gather around the middle, whereas men are more spread out along the spectrum. I don't think there should exist anything like "Women's rights", there should just be "rights".
I suspect that what you refer to as "Strong, independent women" are in fact the type that I think of as "Martyrs".
The women in my family do not fit into your views of western women also my mother had the same job as my father and was payed more because she worked harder then my dad.
Also my cousin emily is a volentire firefighter and can run the course faster then the out of shape men she works with.
My sister is a cop and makes more arrests then most men do at her work.
I didn't say "Western Women" I said "Western Feminists", not all feminists are women and not all women are feminists. Your mother was paid more, because she worked more, if she had worked the exact same hours as him, would she have been paid the same money, because that's what equality means. It should also include being paid based on quality of work more than anything else. Does your cousin have to carry the same pack as the male firefighters? Furthermore, is making arrests the sole way to measure a cop's work? For all I know she could be putting hundreds of kids in Maximum Security prisons for smoking pot. I don't know, because you are telling a story according to your own subjective perception without fleshing out details.
Because women in third world countries are fighting to get their HUMAN rights, women in the western world are generally fighting for "WOMEN'S" rights. I don't view all women from the western world as one and the same, they are individuals. I just tend to side with the individuals that put in the time needed to reach their goal, rather than complain to have that goal made easier for them. To use your story about the firewoman and policewoman, in the country where I live, your firewoman cousin would carry a much lighter pack than her male counterparts and has a longer time to complete the course. Your cop sister, would get less strenuous physical tests than her male counterparts, meaning that she doesn't have to fill the same physical requirements to speed, conditioning and strength as her male colleagues.
So you must have a issue with westren feminists them I am one women in america still have to deal with a lot of social issues so I was rasied by my mom with no help from my dead beat father. just because women in america dont deal with the violence women deal with in third world countries doenst mean they don't deal with social issues of their own in america like my mother deals with in her daily life.
Everyone deals with social issues, being a woman dealing with social issues is no different than being a man dealing with social issues. Social issues affect EVERYONE, if you maintain that its worse when women have to deal with them, then you're more of a sexist than I am.
Men do not get objectiied for being a man but women deal with way more issues then just social issues also.
I am a feminst not a sexist or a man hater either.
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Is that the naked man wrestling? :V
I do both once I wrestled naked with a group of guys and always came
Um, TMI.
Then your wife should have never asked cheri
So, we're not to trust....anyone who believes anything or does anything about it.
They're all Reptilians! Democrat, Republican, feminist, Domestic Christian Servitude Whatever-ers....

I suspect that what he/she means is that people who derive or build their sense of self based on an ideology are innately dangerous.
Is that the naked man wrestling? :V
I do both once I wrestled naked with a group of guys and always came
Um, TMI.
Then your wife should have never asked cheri
WRESTLE ALL THE MEN!
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