Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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Accidently spanked some feminists too, eh?

Question for ValWig: Are all men who are not feminists misogynists?

I mean, you fully agreed with the quote that says all male babies are the future abusers of women, so it's a much shorter leap to say all non-feminist men are misogynists. I mean, isn't it a horrible, horrible, horrible thing to you when a man declines to become a feminist? Doesn't it mean he hates women? Isn't that the only explanation, as far as your thinking is concerned.

Dang, I guess since I'm a male, I might as well go abuse some women, because, after all, that feminist I quoted says woman-abuse is in my future because I'm male. I mean, men who believe her might decide it's not even wrong to abuse women, but rather just their destiny as men. Do you see how damaging such a quote can be? Why would a man bother behaving civilly toward women his whole life if he will always be branded an abuser regardless of his behavior? I mean, it's like if I were fined for speeding before I sped, fined in preparation for when I speed. Ya, that's pretty f'd up isn't it? I mean, maybe if you feminists call enough innocent men "abusers" enough times, that will eventually sink into some of their heads by sheer repetition, and they'll actually fulfill your diagnosis and become abusers of women. Oh, but then that just helps to feed the feminist line -- by creating more female victims, just like PETA kills certain animals in mass slaughter to save others, and Rev Jackson constantly race-baits in order to fight racism.

we are all different.

Me thinks this video is quite fitting for this seemingly endless debate about feminism and teh ensuing battle of the sexes:



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW8q2TjS7hA[/youtube]

Vigilians, did you not hear the lyrics?

I've heard it said, that all is fair

in love and war, so what's life for?

the boy and girl, two separate worlds

the endless tug of war!

I was shocked when I read your original statement. So quickly asserting that ALL women are the same, when nothing could be further from the truth! There are women who are more logical than the men in their lives, and men who are more emotional than the women in their lives, and so on. Broad generalizations are ALWAYS offensive.

The average feminist isn't trying to be a man, she is trying to be recognized for who she is, whether that be smart, logical, weak, strong, sexy, plain, a great cook, or a great machinist, without someone saying, "you're a woman, therefore you must be X." It is the assumption that is stiffling, and the same is true when men are forced to grow up with "boys can't cry" stereotypes. If you are comfortable around men who make you feel protected, go for it, but don't assume that every woman should or does have the same desires or needs.

I grew up with a father who didn't want to send any his daughters to college, given that (his words) we'd all just get married, and no self respecting man would let his wife work. Well, I went to college anyway, and it is a good thing because I had to support myself until I was 36 and even now our family relies on the fact that I can earn good money any time there is a need for it (like when my AS husband stresses out and needs to quit his job). My older sister took my dad's word for it and has had to settle for doing less than she is capable of her whole life, and has never married. It is THAT sort of limiting role play that feminists fought against, and you are too young to have a clue what it was like before, the world where my brilliant aunt spent her life as a secretary to a prominent researcher, basically did all his thinking for him, and never got credit nor a decent wage. It has nothing to do with trying to be a man, and everything to do with being allowed to be who you are, and receiving credit for it. You are living the benefits, just as I am, and yet give nothing but disdain to those who cleared that path for you.

I don't fit in anyone's box, either, and I like it that way. I have a top notch intellect, don't have the patience for housework, and would have loved to have been Miss America. Go figure.

Please don't don't limit anyone with over generalizations that can never fit.

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One more tidbit to ponder: ever choose to wear pants to school and not think twice about it?Thank feminism. When I started school, girls were required to wear dresses, they claimed girls thought better in dresses. Tell me, does your intellect change depending on what you are wearing? Nah, mine doesn't either. So much hogwash invented by men who wanted to believe they knew everything oh so much better simply by being male ...

I much prefer today's world where some men do the cooking, some women earn the money, yet most actually choose to do things the way they have been done for generations ... and wear jeans while doing it.

I honestly don't know what to say. :/ I am sorry to say that women think emotionally because I was remembering a study done on babies showing that when presented with a doll or a ball. The majority of the female babies went for the doll and examine the face while the majority of males went for the ball and examined it shape. And it showed, that at an early age we are already drown to different object preferences with out much influence. The case study concluded that men are spatial thinking incline while women who are emotional thinking incline. Spatial, the ball is geometrical, logical in it's appearance. Emotional, because the face of the doll is human, it conveyed an emotion.

Source?

Going by my mom's daycare that isn't true. My mom would take some pictures of the 3 year old boys that dressed up themselves (she didn't ask them to or anything like that) in princess dresses. Was really funny with the macho dads. My mom takes a ton of pictures so she wasn't singling out anything.

And if she is deceitful about using birth control, than her responsibility increases to 100%.

Anway, there was an interesting article written by Samantha Brick

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... z1r0g9S41b

A lot of people laughed like buggery at that article - me included. Some of the 'hideous comments' people made to her were spot on.

A lot of people laughed like buggery at that article - me included. Some of the 'hideous comments' people made to her were spot on.

:V I know! Her smile and stare are creepy!! lol

Or actually deliberately sabotages the birth control - there have been cases in the past of women sabotaging condoms (http://www.google.com/search?q=women%20sabotaging%20condoms&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) and the like. Surely that should be as much a crime as if men did it to women, as also often happens? Some nasty creeps try to impregnate prostitutes for instance.