Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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06 Apr 2012, 2:50 pm

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I think she is kind of arrogant, but the comments lead me to the conclusion that good looking people should not bring light to personal problems caused by their appearance as they will be set upon by jeering, ravenous hordes of unsympathetic people who think they know better

The problem is that her arrogance and narcissism come across as that extreme that people will simply mock and deride her, so really it's backfired. Particularly as a lot of people (me included) don't think she's particularly attractive in the first place. So, there might be a point there somewhere but it has been buried in the big-headedness she displays.

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06 Apr 2012, 3:27 pm

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Well, as I asked you pages ago, give us the truth about women, hyper, since you apparently know it, as you claim that my wife didn't state it accurately.

we are all different.

Okay, then. So we are in agreement. Then I have no idea what the point of feminism even is, if all women are different and therefore have different opinions of how to live and interact in society, nor do I know what the point was of you implying that my wife should change her lifestyle. You don't even know her, so your advice made no sense. And not all women are feminist, or even feministic in their thinking. Yet, you believe feminism is right, and many feminists think all women should be feminists. Doesn't that very idea go against feminism's premise that women can and should do as they please, being the complex and independent people that they are? Feminism preaches, but its very premise is that women should neither be preached to nor preached about.

See, there's just all kinds of hypocrisy built-in to feminism, and that's why most guys and many women are just annoyed with the movement.

The "point" of feminism is that sexual inequalities are wrong.
How is this in any way difficult?

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06 Apr 2012, 3:29 pm

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I honestly don't know what to say. :/ I am sorry to say that women think emotionally because I was remembering a study done on babies showing that when presented with a doll or a ball. The majority of the female babies went for the doll and examine the face while the majority of males went for the ball and examined it shape. And it showed, that at an early age we are already drown to different object preferences with out much influence. The case study concluded that men are spatial thinking incline while women who are emotional thinking incline. Spatial, the ball is geometrical, logical in it's appearance. Emotional, because the face of the doll is human, it conveyed an emotion.

Source?

Going by my mom's daycare that isn't true. My mom would take some pictures of the 3 year old boys that dressed up themselves (she didn't ask them to or anything like that) in princess dresses. Was really funny with the macho dads. My mom takes a ton of pictures so she wasn't singling out anything.

A friend of mine worked in a toy store, and he said the number of boys he saw yelled at or even hit for daring to want a "girl's" toy (that involved "feminine" colors, or nurturing, or dressing up) was horrifying.

The idea that people are and should be allowed to be individuals,
as opposed to beaten (literally, in many instances) into conforming to one of two stereotypes is foreign to anti-feminists.
We've already seen in this thread that a male who exists outside the narrow "box" of masculinity (in this case, by daring to call himself a feminist) gets called a "wussy" by other men.

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06 Apr 2012, 3:44 pm

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The article and her viewpoints are not an extreme example of either, though I do think she is somewhat arrogant. She is not ranting about anything, she provides specific example of where people were unkind to her, and a few are quite clearly because of her looks (like the group photo one). The problem I see with her article is that she seems to imply it is behavior specific to women, which is not the case. A lot of men are big b*tches too. Whether you and a few other people who read her article long after the fact of the events described think she is unattractive is not relevant, there are many who do, clearly, and have treated her accordingly. I also think the content of the article, being worth derision in the eyes of some, plays a large part in saying she is not attractive. That is pretty normal, as I am not attracted to plenty of women who are physically attractive but not personally, or who are unkind individuals.

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06 Apr 2012, 3:54 pm

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Has this thread accomplished anything? Is this thread accomplishing anything presently? Will this thread accomplish anything?

Nope, nope and nope.

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06 Apr 2012, 3:56 pm

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Has this thread accomplished anything? Is this thread accomplishing anything presently? Will this thread accomplish anything?

Nope, nope and nope.

What do threads ever accomplish? :lol:

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06 Apr 2012, 3:58 pm

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Alexender wrote:

Mirror wrote:

My mom got me some doll for my birthday that I saw on a commercial when I was around 4, you fed it out a bowl that came with it. My younger brother walked by, without saying anything, and took it. So they had to get him one (I was crying haha). When my mom told my stepdad this story he said he would not have bought his son the same toy.

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06 Apr 2012, 4:10 pm

Vigilans wrote:

blunnet wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Has this thread accomplished anything? Is this thread accomplishing anything presently? Will this thread accomplish anything?

Nope, nope and nope.

What do threads ever accomplish? :lol:

Nothing.

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06 Apr 2012, 5:30 pm

blunnet wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

blunnet wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Has this thread accomplished anything? Is this thread accomplishing anything presently? Will this thread accomplish anything?

Nope, nope and nope.

What do threads ever accomplish? :lol:

Nothing.

In that case, here is some feminist humour, to lighten things up

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06 Apr 2012, 6:05 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Well, as I asked you pages ago, give us the truth about women, hyper, since you apparently know it, as you claim that my wife didn't state it accurately.

we are all different.

The "point" of feminism is that sexual inequalities are wrong.
How is this in any way difficult?

How is it that you'd have to ask, given I already replied to you 2 pages ago on this exact subject? (Which you never replied to.)

Here is the text:

Ragtime wrote:

Sexes aren't equal, and no amount of legislation will change the underlying biology that makes sexes unequal.
Is an apple equal to an orange? No. Is one universally better? No. Are both of some good? Yes. Is this satisfactory? Of course it is.
It's the same with men and women.

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