How strong is the evidence that Jesus existed?

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If the bible says jesus died and was reborn 3 days later, it does not go against what I say. In fact it supports what i say about the solstice.

You need to provide a logical connection between the two.

It's not enough to say that you perceive the solstice sun to act in a manner which seems to you like the Jesus story was inspired by it or something. That's subjective selective perception and not evidence.

Seriously, you need to read up on the falsehoods of Acharya S, since you're not finding me convincing at all. No actual expert agrees with that fraud. Not sure why you continue to cling to her wild beliefs.

Anyway, I don't like going in circles, so I'm going to stop here.

The plain observable facts are the seasonal changes that take place. The 3 stars of orions belt, the southern cross, the star sirius, the fact that christmas day is the first day that an observer on Earth can tell that the sun is now in the ascension, and that midwinter has passed.

So this year when you are celebrating christmas day (if you do) you can know that for those of us in the northern hemisphere the shortest days have passed and the days are getting gradually longer.

Many thousands of years before the story of jesus, this would have been known to our ancestors all across Europe, Asia and the middle east, and northern africa.

There are no written documents because writing wasn't around, or if it was it was written in the sand perhaps. Verbal story telling would have been the method of communication.

And the story would be: At midwinter the sun dies for 3 days, it lies on the southern cross, but after the 3rd day it is ressurected and will return (it is reborn). The 3 kings (stars of orions belt) are aligned with the bright star to the east (sirius) and point to the location of the birthplace of the saviour (our sun).

Also there is speculation that the three pyrimids at Giza were built to mirror the three stars of orions belt, and the Egyptians buried their kings in these pyrimids.

It is not concrete (or stone) evidence, but it is very intriguing and compelling correlations to how the ancient mind was working.

Yeah whatever. These people are always criticizing each others theories and I doubt there are any "experts" in the matter. We are all capable of drawing our own conclusions.

Wonderful robd,

It is true that the Christianity is sun worship, Jesus Christ being the Sun personified. A continuation of the old sun worship cult mythology, that is the deep dark secret of the Church. It will probably be some time before philosophy and reason abolishes this fraud called Christianity, which has been perverted for the purpose of acquiring power, influence and wealth. I don't understand how so many people can't see this. I think humanity has a natural predisposition, or desire, to want to trust and believe in others, which isn't really a bad thing, but it can be and has been extensively taken advantage of and exploited for all the wrong reasons by a handful of people throughout history for their own selfish desires and personal gain, Christianity is one of the best example of this.

We all know the flood story, as it seems does every single remote tribe and religion. Obviously it relates to a single environmental event that caused local flooding, or perhaps a rise in sea levels at the end of the last ice age.

It is no different from the fact that most religions from different times have a sun god, or practiced sun worship, had the notion of death and rebirth, and celebrated the winter solstice. Jesus is no different.

Since this is a new point to address from you, I'm going to comment.

No, real experts don't dispute the historical likelihood of Jesus' existence nor do they wonder whether the Jesus character was copied from prior myths or not (because they know this "thesis" is ridiculous).

The Aztecs and Maya have no Flood Myth.

ruveyn

Wonderful robd,

It is true that the Christianity is sun worship, Jesus Christ being the Sun personified. A continuation of the old sun worship cult mythology, that is the deep dark secret of the Church. It will probably be some time before philosophy and reason abolishes this fraud called Christianity, which has been perverted for the purpose of acquiring power, influence and wealth. I don't understand how so many people can't see this. I think humanity has a natural predisposition, or desire, to want to trust and believe in others, which isn't really a bad thing, but it can be and has been extensively taken advantage of and exploited for all the wrong reasons by a handful of people throughout history for their own selfish desires and personal gain, Christianity is one of the best example of this.

Bart Ehrman, Richard Carrier (a mythicist, mind you), Michael Grant, John Crossan, and even Robert Price (who is questionable as someone professing expertise). They (and many others) all disagree with Acharya S. And all whom I listed (with the exception of Robert Price) find her ideas to be ridiculous and contrary to what the evidence suggests.

You've been fooled, mate.

There is no real expert who believes what you claim. Get over it.

They are probably all closet christians or hindus or whatever. Or maybe they are just angry that someone else came up with this idea first.

Contrary to what you think, you're following a delusion, and it's this delusion that makes you and Acharya S and her fans say crap like the above.

For every guy who was mocked during his time and turned out to be right all along. There are 1000 guys who were also mocked and were horribly wrong.