Feminist preoccupation with power

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Right. Because defending someone else is exactly like roving around in heavily armed groups, looking for trouble.

So everyone, be on the lookout for heavily armed gangs of feminazis. Also, be aware of vicious gangs of grannies.

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I will rephrase: If you ever complain again when someone asks for resources, you will be outed as a hypocrite. Is that better?

Your source can be summed up as, 'women make less than men because women don't have wives.' Now how about responding to the multiple sources Hyperlexiann and I have posted?

My excerpt did that fairly well. The only comparable groups from each gender are women who were never married and men who were never married since men who marry have their earning potential enhanced by their wife, whereas a woman who gets married tends to drastically reduce her earning potential, especially if there are kids involved. This is supported by the fact that recent graduates tend to have comparable salaries and the difference not showing up until "child rearing years".

In the group where neither gender got married, the earnings potential is equal in fact women make more than men in quite a few cases among that group.

Go to google write in "Thomas Sowell Economic facts and fiction pdf" download it, read chapter 3 and you can see why sociologists yet again have bitten over more than they can chew and why every statistic you post will be erroneous. That is, unless you trust sociologists more than economists when talking about money and economy. In fact, if women could regularly be paid 80 cents on the dollar, any business owner would be moronic not to hire all women since it would reduce their salary costs between 10 and 20 percent.

In order for statistics to be valid they have to account for every single variable and be between comparable groups. I know that the statistics posted by yourself, Hyperlexican and by me earlier in that 1998 report, leave out a host of different variables. When we know that marriage and children both have different effects on men and women, the group of married men and married women, and those with children must be eliminated from the comparison. Absence of discrimination does not mean that there are no differences between male and female wage earnings.

And with a twist of my words, a strawman is born!

[Okay, I'll play that game.]

Uh, sure thing... if you give me a quote from the Sanford, Florida Neo-Nazis saying that they intend to protect all whites but NOT blacks.

TM, ultimately no researcher (either economist or sociologist) can fully explain the gender pay gap without resorting to assumptions, estimates, anecdotes, or generalisations. as i quoted above, even your economist conceded the limitations in the research.

not sure what your point is. you haven't been able to draw any sort of parallel between feminists and neo-nazis.

I would like him to expalin it to me to. Because last time I checked their was the Black Feminist movement.

Forget it. I've already clearly explained that my point is not about who the Neo-Nazis are, but rather what this particular group of them is saying they plan to do: protect whites. Do you have a problem with white people saying they are out to protect white people because they are white, yes or no? If you don't want to answer, I'll simply rest my case.

absolutely i have a problem with that, and thankfully feminists are not saying anything of the sort.

I have a problem with that to I am part Cherokee.

Alright, you know where I stand and I know where you stand.

If the Nazis where out to protect whites then why was most of the holocaust victims white?

I'll add that, while no analogy is 100%, there is a lot of overlap between the two issues I brought up. There is a good way to practice feminism. But it is mostly practiced badly and damagingly to society. I mean, what is the point of a gender war anyway? That's like a comic book theme.