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04 Nov 2012, 10:39 am

Inuyasha sure likes to expend a lot of energy on these posts. I bet he walks around angry all day after making these lengthy replies.



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04 Nov 2012, 10:42 am

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You do realize that if this goes all the way to the top and Obama put politics (specifically his re-election campaign) over the safety of the Ambassador, then the public has the right to know BEFORE the election.

This scandal is worse than Watergate, cause at least nobody died in Watergate.


Its not as bad as 2000 people dying on American soil from our buildings being attacked with jets planes, when the Bush Whitehouse knew months beforehand that there were US attack plans in the works.



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04 Nov 2012, 10:45 am

JNathanK wrote:
Inuyasha sure likes to expend a lot of energy on these posts. I bet he walks around angry all day after making these lengthy replies.


Before, and after. He's just a little ball of anger, made more and more angry by Fox Noise, and even angrier by people who do not share in his anger. I'm sure glad that I don't have to meet him in person. All of that anger could make a person angry.



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04 Nov 2012, 11:10 am

This is fun, going round in circles. Wheeee...

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Cornflake I wasn't complimenting IBD, I was insulting the other news agencies.
So anyway, back on Earth - why did you link that story at all, given their track record of (ahem) 'investigative journalism' WRT the Stephen Hawking story?
Surely it wasn't because - shock, horror - The Times has characterized IBD as a "right-wing newspaper", they quoted Faux Noise, and they were merely spouting what you want to hear?


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04 Nov 2012, 12:01 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
Inuyasha sure likes to expend a lot of energy on these posts. I bet he walks around angry all day after making these lengthy replies.


Before, and after. He's just a little ball of anger, made more and more angry by Fox Noise, and even angrier by people who do not share in his anger. I'm sure glad that I don't have to meet him in person. All of that anger could make a person angry.
Yah. hes probably one of these people who hold up the line at the Post Office or Library to vent all their anger toward the government on public sector employees.

...or one of those loud people at bars who can't, for the life of them, stop blathering on about how "the liberals are ruinin' Amerrrrka!".



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04 Nov 2012, 12:12 pm

Cornflake wrote:
This is fun, going round in circles. Wheeee...
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Cornflake I wasn't complimenting IBD, I was insulting the other news agencies.
So anyway, back on Earth - why did you link that story at all, given their track record of (ahem) 'investigative journalism' WRT the Stephen Hawking story?
Surely it wasn't because - shock, horror - The Times has characterized IBD as a "right-wing newspaper", they quoted Faux Noise, and they were merely spouting what you want to hear?


A lot of the media viewing habits of today play right into selective bias.We have a growing consensus reality split, because people only listen to the type of News they want to hear. Romney can just say blatant lies, like referencing Bain Capital as a small business, and people will believe it if they want to. His campaign adds even have a propagandistic over-simplicity, not unlike that of the Soviet propaganda of the 1960's.

To some people Obama is even a Communist, Muslim, Nazi, native born Kenyan, and the Affordable Care Act gives provisions for micro-chipping the populace with the mark of the beast. Its not even that fringe. I've heard people talking about this kind of stuff at a Republican fundraiser I went to. They were like talking about seceding from the union even.



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04 Nov 2012, 12:52 pm

An important point that Faux News is deliberately overlooking for the sake of political convenience: US ambasssadors are political appointees, chosen by the President. That means that, by definition slain Ambassador Stevens was a Marxist-Lennonist Commie Liberal, and therefore unworthy of life in the first place.

The other embassy employees who were killed were also Liberals. Obviously, embassy employees have to learn foreign languages, and Conservatives just aren't smart enough to learn foreign languages, let alone to form coherent sentences in English.

Ordinarily, the folks at Faux News would rejoice at a bunch of folks exercising their Second Amendment Rites on a group of Atheist Liberals. But, with an election to win, the Faux News folks have to fake compassion so as to heighten public anger against the President. Behind the scenes, they are chuckling, clinking glasses and congratulating themselves.



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04 Nov 2012, 2:10 pm

Fact of the matter is that some people here (Cornflake, ArrantPariah are two examples), that are ideologues that refuse to face reality... I may have a bias, but I'm not so biased that I can't see reality unlike the two of you.

1. Mediamatters, is not a valid news source, never has been; especially after their declared jihad towards Fox News, they are in serious danger of losing their tax exempt status (which they should) if Romney gets elected.

2. The attack in Benghazi lasted for over 7 hours... We could have gotten F-16s (if I remember correctly), there in about 25 minutes and special forces there in about 2 hours. There is a smoking gun right there.

The counterterrorism team was never engaged and the military felt left out of the loop before during and after the Benghazi attack. At the same time, the AP continues with the debunked version of events reported by the White House and the State Department.

The fact is that the United States entrusted the welfare of our personnel to Libyan militias which were infiltrated with al-Qaida.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012 ... bfuscates/

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CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).


"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."


Information shared with CBS News from top counterterrorism sources in the government and military reveal keen frustration over the U.S. response on Sept. 11, the night Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in a coordinated attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... te-attack/

Face the facts ArrantPariah, mediamatters is not a valid news source, and there are plenty of smoking guns when it comes to the Obama Administration's handling of Benghazi.

I also posted the CBS News source in this thread once before which neither of you read.



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04 Nov 2012, 2:19 pm

:roll:

Your Fox News clips are available on the Media Matters links that I provided.

Are these Fox News clips invalid somehow?



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04 Nov 2012, 2:42 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
:roll:

Your Fox News clips are available on the Media Matters links that I provided.

Are these Fox News clips invalid somehow?


It is called video editting ArrantPariah, considering I don't know what parts mediamatters editted out, without having to then track down original uneditted copies, I can't ascertain the validity of the clips and media matters has a very poor track record on this due to their declaration of war on Fox News...

The far-left wing organization Media Matters - funded in part by George Soros - announced it is engaging in what Politico calls an "all-out campaign" of "guerrilla warfare and sabotage" against Fox News.
http://www.examiner.com/article/soros-f ... n-fox-news

I haven't watched any of the links you posted up from media matters, and I really don't care to, the fact they pretty much declared a "jihad" against Fox News, makes their credibility rather suspect when it comes to their reporting on Fox News.

I really don't feel like taking the time to track down videos like I had to the last time when some people here were trying to take Glenn Beck out of context in order to falsely claim that he wanted people shot in the head...



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04 Nov 2012, 3:12 pm

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04 Nov 2012, 3:18 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
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The liberal group Media Matters has quietly transformed itself in preparation for what its founder, David Brock, described in an interview as an all-out campaign of “guerrilla warfare and sabotage” aimed at the Fox News Channel.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/03 ... z2BHqnLuH8

ArrantPariah, considering mediamatters essentially declared a jihad against Fox News, I hardly think mediamatters is a valid source on anything when it comes to Fox News.



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04 Nov 2012, 4:01 pm

:roll:


Ten points to anyone who can name the fallacy.



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04 Nov 2012, 5:08 pm

JNathanK wrote:
A lot of the media viewing habits of today play right into selective bias.We have a growing consensus reality split, because people only listen to the type of News they want to hear. Romney can just say blatant lies, like referencing Bain Capital as a small business, and people will believe it if they want to. His campaign adds even have a propagandistic over-simplicity, not unlike that of the Soviet propaganda of the 1960's.
It's horrifying, seeing it unfold from this side of the pond. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
I saw the Bride of Chucky* on the news today making the crowd go hysterical just by pushing patriotism buttons. It's not so much what she said - that's just the usual empty "feel good" rallying claptrap - but the reaction was quite disturbing, because she didn't really say anything at all.
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To some people Obama is even a Communist, Muslim, Nazi, native born Kenyan, and the Affordable Care Act gives provisions for micro-chipping the populace with the mark of the beast.
You'd think he actually was the Devil, the way some people react.


*Mrs. Magic Mormon, or Bride of Chucky? You decide...
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04 Nov 2012, 5:14 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I may have a bias, but I'm not so biased that I can't see reality unlike the two of you.
:lmao:
So anyway - why did you link that article? You know - the one from the outfit that fact-checked so well they weren't even aware Stephen Hawking has always lived in the UK and received his medical care from the NHS.
Is that an indication of their accuracy of the article you linked, or doesn't it really matter because it had all the right words in it?

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Are these Fox News clips invalid somehow?
Well of course they're invalid, silly - they weren't presented by Inuyasha.
Only then will they take on the glowing mantle of truth and be guaranteed free from edits. Or something.


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04 Nov 2012, 7:45 pm

Send in F-16s? For what, to fly low like they did over New Orleans after Katrina? Marines, to start shooting in one of the best residentual neighborhoods?

Jungle drums are restless Bawana.

20,000 missing heat seeking surface to air missiles looking for targets.

We should send in the Marines to the UK and bring out Gary McKinnon. Bombing their cities to rubble will let them know Americans are the new Overlords.

Admiral Ollie North should take his Aircraft Carrior to downtown Damascus.

There was something going on, the tribes were massing their troops, and not to knock off some looted building. Over the next few days the massed tribes drove out the CIA contract employees, the Saudi chosen leadership.

To stop it a false flag assult on an empty building was supposed to bring that funding, more CIA, and Marines to defend Jesus.

No one bought it, the orders stayed the same, stand down, head for the airport, leave. They were not Navy Seals, they were contract employes of the CIA, hired guns. Most of them work for Haliburton.

When your paycheck comes from Haliburton, The Saudis, do not claim to be Navy. Infidel hired gun Mercs.

So they disobeyed an order and paid the price, the mission to drive out the other fighters for money went forward, and now it is an all Libya problem.

Haliburton is said to have a larger army than NATO in Afganistan, 100,000-125,000. They do contract work in oil fields. They front for Saudi interests, and the Saudi buy the arms from America.

Haliburton moved their headquarters to the Persian Gulf so that American law no longer applies, they are a landless Corporation State, with a large army.

When Haliburton bought the White House, oil was up, $13 a barrel. After a Saudi operation in New York, an invasion of Iran, oil hit $130.

You have been Dicked by Dick Cheney.

The picture of George Bush kissing the Saudi King says it all.