06 Oct 2016, 2:55 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
L_Holmes wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
AspE wrote:
The racists on this forum don't really care about understanding black anger over police violence, they just want to be able to dismiss it. They don't care about black on black violence or understanding how we got here.
The only racist views I've seen on WP (aside from swiftly banned trolls) have been anti-white.
I seem to remember, on another one of my threads, you commenting on the fact that I'm white and from Missouri, which you implied made me a racist (you said something along the lines of it "affecting his opinions of black people"). I can probably go find it and post a link if you want to pretend it didn't happen. I then challenged you to find and quote any of my posts where I said something actually racist, and you simply refused, playing it off as if the truth is so obvious that you simply didn't need to back up such harsh and unfounded accusations. That is intellectual dishonesty, whether you are correct or incorrect about your claims, let alone the fact that you were choosing to attack me rather than my argument.
So the fact that I'm a white person criticizing SOME black people means I'm a racist, apparently. This is the basic response I've gotten from the people who disagree with me. Yet you are the ones openly judging me based on my skin color, and are refusing to talk about anything but that. You all are so keen to put everyone in groups and pit them against each other based on arbitrary details about their appearance. It amazes me that you can do this and still believe that you are anti-racism.
Well, in all honesty, it doesn't sound like you're talking about just some blacks, particularly when citing black crime statistics to justify different treatment of blacks by the police.
Well, I am just talking about some blacks, it doesn't matter what you think it sounds like. You're the ones who keep assuming that, when talking about black people, you must be referring to them all.
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And sorry, but Missouri doesn't have the best civil rights record. Not nearly as bad as say, Georgia or Mississippi, but not great either.
And what's your point, exactly? Oh, I know, it's f**k white people. How disgusting am I for looking the same as some people who did a bad thing once, right? Never mind the fact that my skin color has no effect on the statistics and data I've provided. I'm white and lived in Missouri for 3 years, and that clearly makes me a racist.
You are clearly just trying to insult and demean me, and you have no logical basis for anything you are saying. You are a prime example of the anti-white racism in this forum.
06 Oct 2016, 5:19 am
06 Oct 2016, 12:24 pm
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06 Oct 2016, 12:59 pm
L_Holmes wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
L_Holmes wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
AspE wrote:
The racists on this forum don't really care about understanding black anger over police violence, they just want to be able to dismiss it. They don't care about black on black violence or understanding how we got here.
The only racist views I've seen on WP (aside from swiftly banned trolls) have been anti-white.
I seem to remember, on another one of my threads, you commenting on the fact that I'm white and from Missouri, which you implied made me a racist (you said something along the lines of it "affecting his opinions of black people"). I can probably go find it and post a link if you want to pretend it didn't happen. I then challenged you to find and quote any of my posts where I said something actually racist, and you simply refused, playing it off as if the truth is so obvious that you simply didn't need to back up such harsh and unfounded accusations. That is intellectual dishonesty, whether you are correct or incorrect about your claims, let alone the fact that you were choosing to attack me rather than my argument.
So the fact that I'm a white person criticizing SOME black people means I'm a racist, apparently. This is the basic response I've gotten from the people who disagree with me. Yet you are the ones openly judging me based on my skin color, and are refusing to talk about anything but that. You all are so keen to put everyone in groups and pit them against each other based on arbitrary details about their appearance. It amazes me that you can do this and still believe that you are anti-racism.
Well, in all honesty, it doesn't sound like you're talking about just some blacks, particularly when citing black crime statistics to justify different treatment of blacks by the police.
Well, I am just talking about some blacks, it doesn't matter what you think it sounds like. You're the ones who keep assuming that, when talking about black people, you must be referring to them all.
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And sorry, but Missouri doesn't have the best civil rights record. Not nearly as bad as say, Georgia or Mississippi, but not great either.
And what's your point, exactly? Oh, I know, it's f**k white people. How disgusting am I for looking the same as some people who did a bad thing once, right? Never mind the fact that my skin color has no effect on the statistics and data I've provided. I'm white and lived in Missouri for 3 years, and that clearly makes me a racist.
You are clearly just trying to insult and demean me, and you have no logical basis for anything you are saying. You are a prime example of the anti-white racism in this forum.
Sometimes in heated discussion, like anyone else, I can say things I regularly would not have. Therefore, I apologize if I've offended you.
But I still have gotten the impression from your posts that you were referring to all African Americans, not just some, even if that was not your intent.
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06 Oct 2016, 1:06 pm
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06 Oct 2016, 3:44 pm
L_Holmes wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
AspE wrote:
The racists on this forum don't really care about understanding black anger over police violence, they just want to be able to dismiss it. They don't care about black on black violence or understanding how we got here.
The only racist views I've seen on WP (aside from swiftly banned trolls) have been anti-white.
I seem to remember, on another one of my threads, you commenting on the fact that I'm white and from Missouri, which you implied made me a racist (you said something along the lines of it "affecting his opinions of black people"). I can probably go find it and post a link if you want to pretend it didn't happen. I then challenged you to find and quote any of my posts where I said something actually racist, and you simply refused, playing it off as if the truth is so obvious that you simply didn't need to back up such harsh and unfounded accusations. That is intellectual dishonesty, whether you are correct or incorrect about your claims, let alone the fact that you were choosing to attack me rather than my argument.
So the fact that I'm a white person criticizing SOME black people means I'm a racist, apparently. This is the basic response I've gotten from the people who disagree with me. Yet you are the ones openly judging me based on my skin color, and are refusing to talk about anything but that. You all are so keen to put everyone in groups and pit them against each other based on arbitrary details about their appearance. It amazes me that you can do this and still believe that you are anti-racism.
I'd like to see that link actually, if you can find it.
06 Oct 2016, 3:49 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
AspE wrote:
The racists on this forum don't really care about understanding black anger over police violence, they just want to be able to dismiss it. They don't care about black on black violence or understanding how we got here.
The only racist views I've seen on WP (aside from swiftly banned trolls) have been anti-white.
If you disagree, provide examples.
There is no anti-white racism on WP. No one is calling for whites to lose their rights, or accusing them of committing most crimes, or breeding like rabbits. And I'm so white, my DNA probably risks being sunburned! So it's not like that I'm of some other race attacking whites. Being critical of bad treatment of others because of race doesn't mean you're a racist or a self-hating white.
Dude, I've never been racist in my life and I can tell you that I do see an "Anti-White" movement. It's called "We Better Check Our Privilege" Movement and I'm damn tired of it. Hillary Clinton was even a part of it by saying "Whites need to change their ways". What a load of crap if I ever heard it.
And another thing, you always shoot these accusations out of your mouth without any backup proof. Adifferentname is right - show some facts.
06 Oct 2016, 3:56 pm
Here's my proof:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/clin ... es-n628531
From the article:
"there is "work that all Americans have to do, and I will say especially white Americans."
Gotta love the white racism. And that's why I'm for Trump.
06 Oct 2016, 4:01 pm
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06 Oct 2016, 4:17 pm
We should all just be misanthropists and SHUT UP because I'm SICK of this. 
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06 Oct 2016, 7:28 pm
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07 Oct 2016, 12:31 am
nurseangela wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
AspE wrote:
The racists on this forum don't really care about understanding black anger over police violence, they just want to be able to dismiss it. They don't care about black on black violence or understanding how we got here.
The only racist views I've seen on WP (aside from swiftly banned trolls) have been anti-white.
If you disagree, provide examples.
There is no anti-white racism on WP. No one is calling for whites to lose their rights, or accusing them of committing most crimes, or breeding like rabbits. And I'm so white, my DNA probably risks being sunburned! So it's not like that I'm of some other race attacking whites. Being critical of bad treatment of others because of race doesn't mean you're a racist or a self-hating white.
Dude, I've never been racist in my life and I can tell you that I do see an "Anti-White" movement. It's called "We Better Check Our Privilege" Movement and I'm damn tired of it. Hillary Clinton was even a part of it by saying "Whites need to change their ways". What a load of crap if I ever heard it.
And another thing, you always shoot these accusations out of your mouth without any backup proof. Adifferentname is right - show some facts.
Whether you like the "check your privilege" people or not, the fact is, no one is calling whites inferior, or culturally and/or genetically criminally inclined. The rights of us whites are not in any danger when someone asks us to give some thought to the white privilege which we so take for granted that we don't even acknowledge the existence of.
White privilege is being able to walk of drive anywhere, at any time of day or night, without fear of the police treating us with a different standard. That's not so with blacks. So yes, we do have privilege that comes with race, and because we do have that privilege, we can recognize it, and do something about extending the same equal treatment to non-whites that we enjoy.
