Trump's 2019 State of the Union Address (live @ 9pm Eastern)

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16 Feb 2019, 1:12 pm

Collusion isn't a crime. Conspiracy to evade specific laws are. Obstruction of justice, lying under oath, lying to the FBI, money laundering, and witness tampering are.

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16 Feb 2019, 2:28 pm

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Collusion isn't a crime. Conspiracy to evade specific laws are. Obstruction of justice, lying under oath, lying to the FBI, money laundering, and witness tampering are.

The whole investigation was about collusion to start with so you can quit your games. None of the 'crimes' would even be crimes if it wasn't for the hoax investigation based on lies.

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16 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

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As The Russia Hoax Begins To Unravel, The Gaslighting Begins
The media has started backing away from the Russia collusion hoax. Many seem to know a reckoning is coming.

In episode 171 of “Seinfeld,” George Costanza makes up a story about having a house in the Hamptons in order to avoid attending an event with his dead fiancée’s parents, the Rosses. He soon learns they know of his deception but the Rosses nevertheless accept an invitation to the fictitious house.

George picks them up and begins driving towards a house that doesn’t exist. Both the Rosses and George maintain the pretense until George drives to the end of island past the last house in the Hamptons. George silently pleads for the Rosses to put an end to the charade. The lie’s momentum took on a life of its own as the players all continued acting their parts long after the truth was known.

The episode comes to mind as the media has started backing away from the Russia collusion hoax. Like Costanza, many of the media perpetrators seem to know a reckoning is coming. Politico warned Trump haters, “Prepare for disappointment.”... Mueller’s longtime top deputy at the FBI recently warned, “A public narrative has built an expectation that the special counsel will explain his conclusions, but I think that expectation may be seriously misplaced.”

Most recently, the Senate Judiciary Committee announced that after almost two years of investigation, it has uncovered no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Attorneys assigned to the Mueller team have quietly begun to slip away before the outcome of the investigation is made public....

This is unsurprising. The Russia hoax is crumbling and people can’t run away fast enough. We’ve seen signs from the very beginning that many of the people who promoted the Trump-Russia collusion smear have always known it was a hoax.

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The problem is that "hoax" makes it sound like a jolly prank. "Treason" and "attempted coup" are closer to what it was.

That's called wishful thinking on the part of the right.
The Senate committee is made up largely of Republicans, who have long since demonstrated that they put party and President over country.

Rubbish. There's 8 Republicans, 6 Democrats and 1 Independent. There's no evidence.

The Democrats on the committee strenuously disagreed with the Republicans. Congress has yet to investigate because they are waiting for the results of the Mueller report - - which the senate should have done, proving their conclusions to have been partisan and predetermined.

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16 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

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The Clintons did do that.
All the Trump hatred and allegations only started when he ran for President, I smell a rat. I've heard loads of guys make similar jokes and I know they were joking.

No, those allegations have been around for years. They only became front page news because accusations of sexual abuse became much more relevant when he became the Republican nominee.
He wasn't joking, he was bragging. This is after all a serial adulterer who's been married three times. Trump should have taken some lessons from Obama on how to be a good dad and husband.

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16 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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That's called wishful thinking on the part of the right.
The Senate committee is made up largely of Republicans, who have long since demonstrated that they put party and President over country.

Rubbish. There's 8 Republicans, 6 Democrats and 1 Independent. There's no evidence.

That's tripe. If they had any evidence they would have presented it. They are crying because they know they've wasted 2 years on a hoax they have been pushing. Mueller is a lying fraud and should be arrested for wasting public money and lying which killed a million people in Iraq.

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16 Feb 2019, 4:35 pm

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The Clintons did do that.
All the Trump hatred and allegations only started when he ran for President, I smell a rat. I've heard loads of guys make similar jokes and I know they were joking.

There's always allegations. No one had heard of them till he destroyed the Democratic party. Your warped opinion.
Being the one of the worst war criminals in history isn't a great example to your children. Thanks to Obama, Clinton and Sanders black people are now being sold as slaves in Libya. Shame on anyone that supports any of those 3 parasites.

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16 Feb 2019, 4:57 pm

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The whole investigation was about collusion to start with so you can quit your games. None of the 'crimes' would even be crimes if it wasn't for the hoax investigation based on lies.

Seems to me the actual crimes found prove it wasn't a hoax.

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16 Feb 2019, 5:11 pm

AspE wrote:

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The whole investigation was about collusion to start with so you can quit your games. None of the 'crimes' would even be crimes if it wasn't for the hoax investigation based on lies.

Seems to me the actual crimes found prove it wasn't a hoax.

You have proof of collusion? Please share???

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16 Feb 2019, 5:26 pm

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That's called wishful thinking on the part of the right.
The Senate committee is made up largely of Republicans, who have long since demonstrated that they put party and President over country.

Rubbish. There's 8 Republicans, 6 Democrats and 1 Independent. There's no evidence.

Let's see if you're still saying that when the Mueller report comes out.

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16 Feb 2019, 5:28 pm

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The Clintons did do that.
All the Trump hatred and allegations only started when he ran for President, I smell a rat. I've heard loads of guys make similar jokes and I know they were joking.

And I used to think you liked Bernie Sanders!
Take a breath, and wipe the foam from your mouth.

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16 Feb 2019, 5:56 pm

Mueller is a lying crook that should be rotting in jail. Insiders have said to prepare for disappointment and that a lot of the findings will be classified. You will still claim there was collusion though to save embarrassment.

Then it shows you don't read or remember anything. I was trying to educate people during the primaries what a fraud Sanders is. Just because I know he was cheated doesn't mean I support him.

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16 Feb 2019, 7:11 pm

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And Trump, who has a long history of cheating his workers and contractors out of pay, and screwing over his partners, and who had run confidence scams like Trump University and Trump Charities isn't a fraud?
Just because you disagree with Sanders on matters like Libya hardly makes him a fraud.

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16 Feb 2019, 7:14 pm

Blah blah blah.

Sanders is responsible for black people becoming slaves again. He gave Lockheed Martin $1.5 trillion for the F-35 that doesn't work. Nothing Trump has done is worse than any of that.

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16 Feb 2019, 7:20 pm

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Blah blah blah.

Sanders is responsible for black people becoming slaves again. He gave Lockheed Martin $1.5 trillion for the F-35 that doesn't work. Nothing Trump has done is worse than any of that.

Sanders never once intended on black people becoming slaves, but Trump certainly intended to enrich himself at the expense of literally thousands of people who trusted him. Now, Trump is enriching himself at the expense of millions of people who trust him.

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16 Feb 2019, 7:22 pm

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You have proof of collusion? Please share???

Just ask comrade Putin, don't you have to check in once in a while?

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16 Feb 2019, 7:33 pm

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