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Should I move to Australia if Obama wins?
Yes. 34%  34%  [ 46 ]
No. 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
I just wanna see the results. 25%  25%  [ 33 ]
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29 Nov 2011, 6:44 pm

He could consider New Zealand

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_vO0-rAP0[/youtube]

Lots and lots of sheep, but no snakes.

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If he is concerned about Black-on-White violence, don't be fooled. New Zealand's rugby team is called the All Blacks...

http://www.allblacks.com/

...because they wear all black uniforms.



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29 Nov 2011, 8:11 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
VMSmith wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
I forgot to add the unavoidable escalation of black-on-white violence if Obama is elected.
Call me politically incorrect, but those statistics will rise if he wins.



you're not politically incorrect. you're just a racist piece of sh**.


^^this. i read the offending comment and it was like what! *jaw drop*
i hope you didnt move. we dont need more red baiting conservatives. man this thread was so very very dead. and then it turned into post old songs thread. not that thats a bad thing.


I am a bit confused I don't see why its so shocking or racist for someone to say if Obama wins black on white violence could increase.....I don't know that there are any facts to back this up but I guess I am just confused about how that statement was so bad considering it did not actually include any racist stereotypes.


its racist because the violent black man is a stereotype. its how they are generally portrayed in the media- as gangsters, drug pushers, abusive pimps, etc also if electing a black man can be seen as a measure of progress in african american liberation(debateable) then saying that if blacks have too much power they will become violent and out of "control" and lash out at their oppressors is offensive- they cant have too much equality/freedom you know- its dangerous. plus it kind of ignores the history of white on black violence and the way that was treated by society and legal system.



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29 Nov 2011, 8:16 pm

Gods I miss skafather84. He better come back


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29 Nov 2011, 8:54 pm

Or, Ragtime could just stay in Texas

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01 Dec 2011, 12:24 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VrBxbQHPqs[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP6oKLZKqQY&feature=related[/youtube]


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01 Dec 2011, 12:44 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma31rO7FS0s&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwgkmbJ1yDo&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

Americans may be confused at the sense "liberal" is used in the Australian ad below, as it doesn't mean "centre-left" or even "centrist" (as it does in Canada and a few European countries). Rather, it refers to a right-wing party (the Australian Liberal Party isn't a member of the Liberal International but rather the collection of rightwing parties across the globe).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

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02 Dec 2011, 4:20 am

@ Ragtime

You are welcome to come to Australia. You might find the US concept of rugged individualism at odds with the Aussie idea of mateship. Even Australian conservatives tend to support organized labor, universal health care (otherwise known as 'socialized' medicine) and higher taxes on the rich. We also don't flock to winners, instead most Australians support 'the battlers'. The last conservative government introduced tons of middle-class welfare initiatives. If you are a US conservative you will probably think we are a nanny state (mostly because by comparison we are), guns are heavily restricted and the 'this is my property' line counts for squat... also you don't get a phone call when arrested.

On the down side we tend to cut down people who get ahead. Tall poppy syndrome is rampant. If you want to be successful and liked here, be prepared to be self-depreciating rather than boastful. Aussies tend to think that if you have something more, you probably got it at someones expense.

On the whole though, its a pretty sweet place to live. Fantastic food, traffic is pretty good (avoid right hand turns in Melbourme everything in Sydney and if you don't like roundabouts give Canberra a miss), not enough universities for a serious exclusive elite to emerge. Also we don't tend to tip, the people who work in our restaurants earn a very decent wage ($14-20/hour) but beer is expensive.

The best things though is that are that does not matter how sick you are... if you really need help... we've got your back mate. When your unemployed... we WONT let you starve and when you need an education we WONT break you with loans. We are also hugely patriotic, you can be against the war and most people are, but the Aussie digger is an icon that is off limits to anything but the most careful criticism.

Also, if you want to come here you have to learn how to bag the Kiwis

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenRILqwhJs[/youtube]


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02 Dec 2011, 4:45 am

Ragtime wrote:
Clearly, America will no longer be my favorite country with a socialist at its helm,
so Australia, with its conservatism still relatively intact, is looking more and more appealing.
I mean, our economy is doing bad enough without a neophyte small-business-punitive-taxor at the helm.


Try Switzerland.



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02 Dec 2011, 6:34 am

I hear toecutting is a growth industry.


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02 Dec 2011, 9:06 am

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@ Ragtime

You are welcome to come to Australia. You might find the US concept of rugged individualism at odds with the Aussie idea of mateship. Even Australian conservatives tend to support organized labor, universal health care (otherwise known as 'socialized' medicine) and higher taxes on the rich. We also don't flock to winners, instead most Australians support 'the battlers'. The last conservative government introduced tons of middle-class welfare initiatives. If you are a US conservative you will probably think we are a nanny state (mostly because by comparison we are), guns are heavily restricted and the 'this is my property' line counts for squat... also you don't get a phone call when arrested.

On the down side we tend to cut down people who get ahead. Tall poppy syndrome is rampant. If you want to be successful and liked here, be prepared to be self-depreciating rather than boastful. Aussies tend to think that if you have something more, you probably got it at someones expense.

On the whole though, its a pretty sweet place to live. Fantastic food, traffic is pretty good (avoid right hand turns in Melbourme everything in Sydney and if you don't like roundabouts give Canberra a miss), not enough universities for a serious exclusive elite to emerge. Also we don't tend to tip, the people who work in our restaurants earn a very decent wage ($14-20/hour) but beer is expensive.

The best things though is that are that does not matter how sick you are... if you really need help... we've got your back mate. When your unemployed... we WONT let you starve and when you need an education we WONT break you with loans. We are also hugely patriotic, you can be against the war and most people are, but the Aussie digger is an icon that is off limits to anything but the most careful criticism.


Now you make it sound like a paradise. Now I'd like to move there, to get away from our damned Repugnicans.

Would you at least take Rupert Murdoch back? Please?



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02 Dec 2011, 9:45 am

Tequila wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Clearly, America will no longer be my favorite country with a socialist at its helm,
so Australia, with its conservatism still relatively intact, is looking more and more appealing.
I mean, our economy is doing bad enough without a neophyte small-business-punitive-taxor at the helm.


Try Switzerland.


To get into Switzerland you need to bring lots of capital.

Switzerland is not Big on poor but hard working immigrants.

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02 Dec 2011, 11:56 am

ruveyn wrote:
Switzerland is not Big on poor but hard working immigrants.


Indeed.

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07 Nov 2012, 8:27 am

I think that it is more traditional for defeated Right-Wingers to move to South America.

Lots of Nazis moved to Brazil when Germany was defeated. After our Civil War, some Southerners moved to Brazil, where they could continue to live as privileged slave-owners.

The only problem is: our Conservatives generally aren't smart enough to learn a new language, and would demand that everyone that they meet in Brazil speak English. And, not just English: American English.

So: maybe Australia would be the ticket after all. They've never elected a non-White prime minister.



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07 Nov 2012, 9:06 am

Australia is very socialist. If you object to the Obamanation on that ground, Australia is the last place to which to move.

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07 Nov 2012, 9:48 am

ruveyn wrote:
Australia is very socialist.


They're extremely nanny state over there (especially regarding cigarettes).



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07 Nov 2012, 10:59 am

When he gets there, Ragtime will probably go around telling people that they have to speak American English, and that they had better give up their health care.