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02 Mar 2009, 11:17 am

The belief by fundamentalist losers that Atheism==Satanism. These imbeciles have no idea what Satanism truly is.
Because in fact, satanism is essentially christianity in reverse. Satanists DO believe in God, atheists DO NOT.

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02 Mar 2009, 11:39 am

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Any philosophy that proposes it is more beneficial to die for something rather than to live for it is worth thinking twice about.

Yes think about it twice and be very afraid. People who thought like that paid us a visit on the morning of 9/11/2001.

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Isn't that what they want?

Yes. But what they don't want is nuclear retaliation. Have you ever considered the idea of carpet bombing the Islamic World with nuclear weapons? It is a win win situation. They go to Paradise and get 72 of Allah's Party Dolls (apiece) and we no longer have the pleasure of their company.

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Er... not all muslims are terrorists. In fact, terrorists are in a minority. You're talking about innocent lives here!

If your dream to nuke the Middle East ever comes true, I sure hope you get some 'retaliation'.

The terrorist Jihadi sharks swim in an ocean of "moderate" Muslims (like the kind that rioted in Denmark). The way you get rid of the sharks is to drain the pool.

Look at what we accomplished in the Pacific War with two puny nukes. We saved millions of lives. Think of what we could do with more.

If thine enemy smite thee on thy cheek, decapitate him and urinate down his neck. Whatsoever evil is done unto thee, return it a million-fold.

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02 Mar 2009, 12:10 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Henriksson wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Sand wrote:

Any philosophy that proposes it is more beneficial to die for something rather than to live for it is worth thinking twice about.

Yes think about it twice and be very afraid. People who thought like that paid us a visit on the morning of 9/11/2001.

ruveyn

Isn't that what they want?

This quote from http://www.doug-long.com/hirosh2.htm which discussed the necessity of using the atomic bombs in WWII and which is considered by many experts today to have been a war crime.

"It didn't take long after the atomic bombings for questions to arise as to their necessity for ending the war and Japan's threat to peace. One of the earliest dissents came from a panel that had been requested by President Truman to study the Pacific war. Their report, The United States Strategic Bombing Survey, was issued in July 1946. It declared, "Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated." (Bernstein, ed., The Atomic Bomb, pg. 52-56)."

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02 Mar 2009, 3:06 pm

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Henriksson wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Sand wrote:

Any philosophy that proposes it is more beneficial to die for something rather than to live for it is worth thinking twice about.

Yes think about it twice and be very afraid. People who thought like that paid us a visit on the morning of 9/11/2001.

ruveyn

Isn't that what they want?

Yeah - but in defense of Truman (and the scientists) he was tormented before and for the rest of his life. Just as it tormented many Japanese politicians and citizens when they bombed Pearl Harbor. War is hell. The decision to begin or end a war is monumentous.

Too bad we didn't learn from that worst case scenario. (Japan, however, mostly has.)

Let's just work and pray (whatever faith you are) so that we won't find out what a third nuke could do. (Go Hillary! Go Sarkozy!)

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02 Mar 2009, 8:34 pm

Way to disregard my entire fourth paragraph. The one where I pointed out that the passage in discussion was not intended to provide incentive toward martyrdom. Now you're talking about nuking an entire part of the world?!?!

I sincerely hope that you're just trolling here and that you are not the xenophobes that you present yourselves to be. Either way, you have proven yourselves unworthy of healthy discussion. Like chickens scratching at the earth, you pick at peoples' posts until you find something to criticize. Instead of considering what people have posted with open minds and posting appropriately.

I know that you would behave differently if you exposed yourselves to the real world. If you left the comfort of your computer and interacted with real people. People who yearn and suffer, reminisce and rejoice. People that have things that add a sense of meaning and purpose to their lives, no matter how ridiculous such things may seem to outsiders.

Nuclear warfare is no laughing matter. Genocide is no joke. By showing such intolerance, you are part of the problem as much as those that have already committed atrocities. You drive the nail in further. Open your minds and your hearts and maybe you'll achieve the knowledge you seek and the wisdom buried within.

I can understand making a point that you want to be free from religion. That you want to be free of beliefs that some people push. In any such healthy discussion I would be glad to join you. But going around looking for trouble is what the Gita calls "Tamasic." You will gain no knowledge, no wisdom, and advance no further. If anything, you will regress.

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02 Mar 2009, 8:55 pm

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And the rest of us die of radiation and an atomic winter. Without any compensatory screwing.

Fallout is mostly local. The amount of radioactivity blowing in to the Western Hemisphere would be minimal. Probably not more than 10,000 additional cases of cancer a year. That is more people than die in the U.S.in traffic accidents. A small price to pay for peace and quite.

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A "small price to pay"? What happens when 100,000 people die in a tsunami? Or when tens of thousands of people lose everything in a hurricane?It's a huge deal. People all around the world are affected.

You're talking about well over a billion people here. It would be akin to removing any two limbs from a healthy person.

Humanity is ONE body whether you like it or not. Whether you realize it or not. When one of us suffers, we all do. It's reasonable to say that we are still recovering from WWII around 60 years later.

I'm sincerely appalled and ashamed.

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02 Mar 2009, 8:58 pm

Um....SOOOOOOOO...how about Santeria? That is some trippy stuff, eh?

I am fascinated by Santeria and Voodoo - but mostly because the imagery is so cool and they are both so misunderstood.

Anyone here ever go to a voodoo place of worship? I have!

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02 Mar 2009, 9:26 pm

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Not sure who the xenophobes and who aren't but if I am in the xenophobe camp then I will take issue. In fact, this motley crew is one of the least xenophobic groups I know.

I honestly don't see where anyone was joking about nuclear armament. Quite the opposite. Especially for some of us "old" enough to remember the Cold War - its about as funny as cancer. (Another "callous" Western saying - I'd imagine.)

As far as... "You have proven yourselves unworthy of healthy discussion. Like chickens scratching at the earth, you pick at peoples' posts until you find something to criticize."

We're aspies. That's what we do. Religion is the stickiest of the stickiest but you'll find the same single-minded stubbornness where aspies are debating whether red is "better" than blue.

Sorry if, as a mob, we crossed the line. As if we couldn't see that coming.

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03 Mar 2009, 6:19 am

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We're aspies. That's what we do. Religion is the stickiest of the stickiest but you'll find the same single-minded stubbornness where aspies are debating whether red is "better" than blue.

"The pen is blue, the pen is blue, the goddamn pen is blue!" - Fletcher Reede in Liar Liar.

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03 Mar 2009, 9:45 am

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Let's just work and pray (whatever faith you are) so that we won't find out what a third nuke could do. (Go Hillary! Go Sarkozy!)

Several dozen above ground nuclear detonations with H-bombs took place subsequent to WW2. Several pacific islands ceased to exist as a result. The world did not end. Fallout did affect some (for example some Japanese fishermen on the Unlucky-Maru got a dose of fallout and some died). The number of people killed by fallout from the tests was far less than the number who die in automobile accidents each year. We do not outlaw cars just because 40,000 United Stateseans die each year in auto accidents. Danger is the price we pay for being alive.

All this garment rending over nukes! We killed more people in one night in Tokyo (March 1945) than in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was done with non-nuclear weapons. Incendiary (General Le May's choice) bombs set a fire storm that wiped out 16 square miles of Tokyo's most densely populated district. 125,000 people were turned into charcoal briquettes in one night. About 1.25 million people were made homeless. It was just and condign repayment for Pearl Harbor. Whatsoever evil thine enemies does unto you, return it a million fold.

In a war, there is only one Law: Win The War. By whatever means suffice to bring Victory. They started it, we finished it.

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03 Mar 2009, 10:20 am

ruveyn wrote:

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Let's just work and pray (whatever faith you are) so that we won't find out what a third nuke could do. (Go Hillary! Go Sarkozy!)

Then I take it your proposal to nuke the entire Middle East and a good portion of Africa to eliminate Islam as a preemptive measure leaves you only with a glow of pleasure and a slight pang of conscience that the Israelis must all en masse kick the bucket too.

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03 Mar 2009, 12:28 pm

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

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Let's just work and pray (whatever faith you are) so that we won't find out what a third nuke could do. (Go Hillary! Go Sarkozy!)

I don't even think about the Israelis. They need them to iniatiate their "armageddon" so they can supposedly live happily forever.

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03 Mar 2009, 12:56 pm

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I worry about what is good for America (that is because I live in the U.S.). Whatever happens elsewhere, happens.

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03 Mar 2009, 1:18 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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I worry about what is good for America (that is because I live in the U.S.). Whatever happens elsewhere, happens.

ruveyn

Ummmm....

OK - ruveyn does not represent the majority of Americans on this site.

I love my country - but I also love the rest of the world. And not just cause I'm afraid of escalating nuclear tensions and fall out.

People from other countries, cultures, and regions are cool and fun to meet. There's art, architecture, history, food, whatever. How can you not even care about the rest of the world?

Dude! It's that attitude that inspired them to fly into the buildings! This is not about being politically correct or whatever - it just seems kind of poison to be so "f*** the rest of the world".

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03 Mar 2009, 1:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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I worry about what is good for America (that is because I live in the U.S.). Whatever happens elsewhere, happens.

ruveyn

Well, I think you should start caring really soon, because America will not be able to hold it's superpower status much longer...

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03 Mar 2009, 3:24 pm

Henriksson wrote:

Well, I think you should start caring really soon, because America will not be able to hold it's superpower status much longer...

As long as we can deal with any enemy, we will be alright. Being a superpower is not the best thing, but being able to kill any deadly enemy is a good thing.

We have the nukes. We have the missiles, we have currently the best armed force in the world.

That will suffice.

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