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29 Aug 2009, 2:20 pm

yes!

megalomania - behavior characterized by an obsession or preoccupation with wealth, power, genius, or omnipotence - often generally termed as delusions of grandeur or grandiose delusions. (...) Whereas it is possible, in the case of megalomania, for an actually important man/woman to be preoccupied with his/her own actual importance, a person suffering from delusions of grandeur would stubbornly entertain patently false, generally fantastic and often highly complex ideas of his/her own importance, often with a supernatural or science-fictional bent.

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29 Aug 2009, 3:34 pm

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29 Aug 2009, 4:03 pm

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

I suspect that we might be looking at Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania)
Believes they are "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status
Requires excessive admiration
Has a sense of entitlement
Is interpersonally exploitative
Lacks empathy
Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Unfortunately, NPD isn't very treatable because it requires the person to admit they have a problem. Which they won't. It's everyone else who has the problem....the problem being they don't worship the narcissist enough.

Another possible view, though, is that much of the behavior exhibited by God in the Old Testament is simply classic 'alpha male' behavior in its lowest form: obsessed with status and pecking order, making sure the old silverbacks get the best of everything, keeping down the lower males and the uppity females, and who's got the biggest banana, or thunderbolt. Not just a God made in man's image (that's 'man' as in 'XY' as well as in 'human'), but a God made in the image of man's more primitive instincts. Not really a case for a shrink, more for a primatologist.

I'm really rather glad I live in a society where belief in this kind of God isn't obligatory.

I was just going to say that. I totally agree. Bible God seems like a whiney child who throws tantrums because people aren't paying attention to him.

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29 Aug 2009, 7:24 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

I was just going to say that. I totally agree. Bible God seems like a whiney child who throws tantrums because people aren't paying attention to him.

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30 Aug 2009, 9:07 am

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

If we assume that this entity exists and actually interacts with the material world in a direct way NPD is what "God" would have, I would also rank "God" as suffering from Psychopathy in conjunction. If we assume this entity exists but doesn't interact with the world then perhaps "God" has Schizoid Personality Disorder.

Edit: For an interesting alternative take on "God" look into Gnostic mythology.

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30 Aug 2009, 3:35 pm

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Edit: For an interesting alternative take on "God" look into Gnostic mythology.

Oh, yes, the Demiurge. Fascinating.

I like William Blake's name for the bearded tyrant: Old Nobodaddy

. I'm not even sure if Blake could have heard of the early CE Gnostics, but he had the same sort of insight they'd had in that area.

"Thinking as I do that the Creator of this world is a very cruel being, and being a worshipper of Christ, I cannot help saying: 'the Son, O how unlike the Father!' First God Almighty comes with a thump on the head. Then Jesus Christ comes with a balm to heal it."

Not that he'd like being labeled a Gnostic, probably; he was a spiritual law unto himself.

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30 Aug 2009, 4:04 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

I was just going to say that. I totally agree. Bible God seems like a whiney child who throws tantrums because people aren't paying attention to him.

Somewhere between there and anti-social considering how little Bible God considers and cares for anyone other than himself in the end. Everything is done for his own praise/amusement. Even sending his own son to suffer and die to get people on his side.

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30 Aug 2009, 10:01 pm

skafather84 wrote:

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

I was just going to say that. I totally agree. Bible God seems like a whiney child who throws tantrums because people aren't paying attention to him.

I am continuously puzzled by people who take seriously the concept of Christ as God and simultaneously the idea that a bit of admittedly horrendous suffering should be taken seriously by an eternal God as a serious offering to humans who daily suffer far more in intensity and depth. The further concept that guilt can be transferred and liquidated is oddly parallel to the recent invention by the financial system of derivatives which permits the selling off of debt as profit. Both violates the very concept of debt and guilt which are pretty much the same thing.

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31 Aug 2009, 6:03 am

Sand wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

I was just going to say that. I totally agree. Bible God seems like a whiney child who throws tantrums because people aren't paying attention to him.

Interesting... ^ ... Christ as God ... then who was he praying to?
It makes more sense if he is his own father who got his mother pregnant.
But anything is possible, so this is not blasphemy. He made dead people alive even himself.

Humans make humans suffer more than anything else does.
God didn't crucify himself. Christ didn't ever hurt anyone but fed and healed them.

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31 Aug 2009, 6:04 am

I saw God at a hospital one day. He thought He was a doctor.

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08 Sep 2009, 8:29 am

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Dent, you know that God, just like all great humans throughout history, is obviously Aspie.

That's 100% Bulls***, the reason why god comes off as cold is the fact that he has the most insane responsibility and has done many things he regrets. I'm not sure about the humans.....

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08 Sep 2009, 9:30 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Dent, you know that God, just like all great humans throughout history, is obviously Aspie.

That's 100% Bulls***, the reason why god comes off as cold is the fact that he has the most insane responsibility and has done many things he regrets. I'm not sure about the humans.....

If God has regrets he certainly didn't know what he was doing at the time. I doubt you can persuade people of faith that God is regretful.

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08 Sep 2009, 1:09 pm

Sand wrote:

If God has regrets he certainly didn't know what he was doing at the time. I doubt you can persuade people of faith that God is regretful.

Genesis 6:6: And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

That's always sounded like regret to me.

The problem is that people's beliefs about who and what God might be have changed over time, but religions believe it shatters their credibility to admit that. (Or the more dogmatic ones do, anyway.) Here we have a very anthropomorphized ancient tribal deity, one of many similar ones in the area, being meshed with an all-encompassing philosophical Supreme Being of much later, Greek-influenced vintage. Of course it doesn't sit comfortably.

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08 Sep 2009, 1:18 pm

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

That's always sounded like regret to me.

That is precisely what the Hebrew says.

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08 Sep 2009, 2:52 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

That's always sounded like regret to me.

That is precisely what the Hebrew says.

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In other words, poor God can screw up. Whatever happened to perfection?

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08 Sep 2009, 5:27 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:

....the reason why god comes off as cold is the fact that he has the most insane responsibility and has done many things he regrets.....

So you agree with Sands original summation of God, the dude has gone nuts

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