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07 Sep 2009, 9:28 am

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Judas stalked away towards the high priest's residence.

Jesus wept.


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If Judas was that smart, then he was not properly appreciated.

I wonder what this Judas had to say about Turning The Other Cheek?

I vote for this Judas.

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07 Sep 2009, 9:33 am

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Jesus holds a Town Hall meeting


only Jesus would be able to get town halls to come to a meeting.
it would be a "mega move" for each town hall.
a logistical nightmare.

how many town halls turned up?



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07 Sep 2009, 9:34 am

NobelCynic wrote:
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What side do you think Judas would be on, right or left? ;)

That depends on which Judas you are talking about. The character is this story written by some unnamed author that Sinsboldly coppied from another site for us, or the character in the four more famous ones that he based his on. The character in this story would be on the right because he didn't want to give to the poor, but the one in say John's story would be on the left because was the Church's treasurer and he was taking a cut of what other people were donating.

You just contradicted yourself. ^^ If he didn't give anything to the poor, he would have ended up on the left sida. :roll:


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07 Sep 2009, 9:46 am

b9 wrote:
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Jesus holds a Town Hall meeting


only Jesus would be able to get town halls to come to a meeting.
it would be a "mega move" for each town hall.
a logistical nightmare.

how many town halls turned up?


Many. Because of the free loaves and fish.

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07 Sep 2009, 11:31 am

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Many. Because of the free loaves and fish.

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We know the place was filled with free-loavers, cause Judas was so pissed off!


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07 Sep 2009, 3:23 pm

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oh. well, that is my comment and perhaps the crux of my arguement. I just don't see the character of Judas's point of view. Having everyone living on the earth helping each other to have a good life is just as valid an opinion as any other, I suppose. I didn't think of defending what I consider a no brainer, but thank you for pointing out that others might have another view of the same story. :D

You may not understand Judas' point of view because you don't share with that character a high social dominance orientation. People like this fundamentally believe discrimination against certain groups is completely okay and that they deserve it. It's odious, but people like this exist (I have the misfortune of working with one, and he also appears to be a narcissist; he's technically skilled but has a horrible personality).



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07 Sep 2009, 6:34 pm

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oh. well, that is my comment and perhaps the crux of my arguement. I just don't see the character of Judas's point of view. Having everyone living on the earth helping each other to have a good life is just as valid an opinion as any other, I suppose. I didn't think of defending what I consider a no brainer, but thank you for pointing out that others might have another view of the same story. :D

You may not understand Judas' point of view because you don't share with that character a high social dominance orientation. People like this fundamentally believe discrimination against certain groups is completely okay and that they deserve it. It's odious, but people like this exist (I have the misfortune of working with one, and he also appears to be a narcissist; he's technically skilled but has a horrible personality).


ah! I think I know what you mean, someone that rails at what they call Politically Correctness because they think that a spade should be called a spade, because it is the 'Truth and it is not right to change what they learned at mother's knee. I have a strange empathy for them because I don't do well with change, either, however am forced to change every day, too.


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07 Sep 2009, 8:52 pm

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ah! I think I know what you mean, someone that rails at what they call Politically Correctness because they think that a spade should be called a spade, because it is the 'Truth and it is not right to change what they learned at mother's knee. I have a strange empathy for them because I don't do well with change, either, however am forced to change every day, too.

You're thinking of merely conservative; people with a high social dominance orientation have a psychological need for there to be a lesser, and they believe it's perfectly legitimate to exploit these people because they don't matter anyway.



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07 Sep 2009, 9:27 pm

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ah! I think I know what you mean, someone that rails at what they call Politically Correctness because they think that a spade should be called a spade, because it is the 'Truth and it is not right to change what they learned at mother's knee. I have a strange empathy for them because I don't do well with change, either, however am forced to change every day, too.

You're thinking of merely conservative; people with a high social dominance orientation have a psychological need for there to be a lesser, and they believe it's perfectly legitimate to exploit these people because they don't matter anyway.


wow! I just spent the last 45 minutes researching your link. I remember those questions from a test I did with hundreds of questions like that.
(I remember because I told them anyone could make it add up to anything they wanted because all they had to do was remember what they said the last way the question was asked and the tester's jaw just dropped. Finally they told me that people 'couldn't remember what they said before' in order to deceive. I laughed then because it seemed so easy for me to remember. I thought that they were kidding me.)

thanks! I know what it is like to be powerless to change, it must be very difficult for them.


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07 Sep 2009, 9:30 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
ah! I think I know what you mean, someone that rails at what they call Politically Correctness because they think that a spade should be called a spade, because it is the 'Truth and it is not right to change what they learned at mother's knee. I have a strange empathy for them because I don't do well with change, either, however am forced to change every day, too.

You're thinking of merely conservative; people with a high social dominance orientation have a psychological need for there to be a lesser, and they believe it's perfectly legitimate to exploit these people because they don't matter anyway.


wow! I just spent the last 45 minutes researching your link. I remember those questions from a test I did with hundreds of questions like that.
(I remember because I told them anyone could make it add up to anything they wanted because all they had to do was remember what they said the last way the question was asked and the tester's jaw just dropped. Finally they told me that people 'couldn't remember what they said before' in order to deceive. I laughed then because it seemed so easy for me to remember. I thought that they were kidding me.)

thanks! I know what it is like to be powerless to change, it must be very difficult for them.

Generally, when the people take these tests, it's for research, so there's no incentive for them to deceive.



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12 Sep 2009, 11:41 pm

Since this topic has failed in its purpose (as it appears to me to be) to attack people who think they are Christians but have conservative politics, I thought I might hijack it and try to turn it into a debate on looking at the Bible as a fary tale.

In another thread, Awsomelyglorious posted this link as part of a rather long and confusing post where he answered my question, about confirming or denying his own existance, by not answering the question. The paper was written by a man named Daniel Dennett, who I think is a professor of philosophy at Tufts University and well known as an athiest, which I read and found to be so incredibly full of BS that it was funny.

I will give just one example:

Daniel Dennett wrote:
We can imagine someone, a benighted literary critic, perhaps, who doesn't understand that fiction is fiction. This critic has a strange theory about how fiction works. He thinks that something literally magical happens when a novelist writes a novel. When a novelist sets down words on paper, this critic says (one often hears claims like this, but not meant to be taken completely literally), the novelist actually creates a world

What is interesting about this is that he invents an imaginary benighted literaly critic, to hold that opinion, yet he might have been refering to J.R.R. Tolkien who wasn't exactly a critic and (I think) fell one step short of knighthood, but did use the word subcreation in his essay "On Fairy Tales" as well as words like magic and enchantment. He also used the term secondary belief to describe a mindset where the story is so good that you do not have to suspend disbelief: where the reader can enter the subcreation and belive that beings like hobbits, elves and goblins actually exist, while he is there, even though he knows, in the real world, that they do not.

You can think of the Bible as a fairy tale, I have no problem with that, but if it is to be of any value you have to be willing to at least suspend disbelief. If you can or will not do that and disbelief needs to be (as Tolkien put it in the same essay) hanged drawn and quartered, then it has no value


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