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07 Sep 2009, 6:08 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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I strongly support eugenetics by which we can remove these stupid emotional genes of the NT's.
Does this imply people with Aspergers are without emotion?

Imply? We are obviously Vulcans without the ears, haven't you noticed?


I actually do have pointed ears at the top :) .


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07 Sep 2009, 6:10 pm

As for the eugenics idea. I think this is appalling. We need NTs, for the variety. There is no justification for wiping out people.


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07 Sep 2009, 7:25 pm

pakled wrote:
"What is this preoccupation with our [i]ears?" - Soval, Enterprise....;)[/i]

Genetics - studying how genes work

Eugenics - trying to 'fix' them according to some sort of 'ideal'


Eugenics is just selective breeding applied to humans.

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07 Sep 2009, 7:38 pm

the idea of only leaving aspies seems like it would create a far more efficient world, however might I point out that we are more likely to have added neurological disorders as well, to do so would likely cause a frighteningly unstable society, and while I suspect we may quite likely have more luck socializing amongst our own kind, I doubt that the lack of nonverbal communication will not not have some manifestation, and as the lack of stabilizing force combines with a destabilizing force it would gamble the world on our higher regard for rules, and ignoring the obvious moral implications of removing most of the world from the gene pool, I do not like such high-stakes, and I doubt many would appreciate it if such a gamble were to have any such unfavorable outcomes



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07 Sep 2009, 7:42 pm

Arcadian wrote:
the idea of only leaving aspies seems like it would create a far more efficient world, however might I point out that we are more likely to have added neurological disorders as well, to do so would likely cause a frighteningly unstable society,


In such a world, the drying of paint would be a major happening. Perish the thought. God loves the NTs which is why He made so many of them.

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07 Sep 2009, 10:33 pm

We definitely need NTs. Haven't you ever watched them practically read each others' minds, say paragraphs with two grunted words, or "network" in such a way that they get insane amounts of things done just by making the right social contacts? Those skills are amazing. The world needs them.

I'm hoping the original post was misunderstood satire. I know people joke about putting NTs through ABA or diagnosing them with "neurotypical disorder" or pitying their special-interest deficiencies... I don't see how you'd even use eugenics to get rid of NTs to begin with; after all, they're the middle of the road that have all the other genetic variations dormant within their gene pool.


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08 Sep 2009, 4:32 am

Callista wrote:
We definitely need NTs. Haven't you ever watched them practically read each others' minds, say paragraphs with two grunted words, or "network" in such a way that they get insane amounts of things done just by making the right social contacts? Those skills are amazing. The world needs them. ...


I never cease to be amazed by people with these talents, and don't make the mistake of underestimating their value.

My business partners are phenominally good at these things, where I am strikingly deficient. My contribution is the intricate multidimensional spatial modelling of the financial aspects of businesses and implementing these models in software, then explaining them to businesspeople in such a way that they appear simple. Together, we make a formidable team.

If I were to not associate with people different from me, I would live in solitary confinement.



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08 Sep 2009, 5:39 am

Scaregenics are a falsity.
Unless you can control all breeding of course--
which is virtually impossible! Thank god!!



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08 Sep 2009, 5:39 am

Well, here's the bad guy again. How does he dare putting eugenics, we say eugenetica in the low lands, on the agenda? Without telling me, this topic has been removed from the general forum to this place, but i have a forgiving nature. On the general f. there's more about it ('mind police'. I like, as Heidegger did, inventing new words).

I suggested, with irony, removal of inferior genes. Not genocide!
Because, mark my words, this will become reality in the future, whether we like it or not: who doesn't want a healthy, smart and creative child?
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08 Sep 2009, 7:00 am

Id rather have a happy chiild, whether they are smart and creative or not. And, I wouldnt breed children like they were show animals, bred for certain traits.


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08 Sep 2009, 7:02 am

Greentea wrote:
Let me help you with English. The word is "word", not "world".

:lol: :lol:

I thought “grease” was the word.



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08 Sep 2009, 7:26 am

Would your child be happy when all the other children are healthy, smart, creative and he/she isn't, or in a much lesser degree?



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08 Sep 2009, 8:29 am

pandd wrote:
Greentea wrote:
Let me help you with English. The word is "word", not "world".

:lol: :lol:

I thought “grease” was the word.


:lmao: :wtg:


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08 Sep 2009, 9:26 am

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Would your child be happy when all the other children are healthy, smart, creative and he/she isn't, or in a much lesser degree?


The latest understanding of the genetic code and its influences clearly indicate circumstance has a very powerful influence as to how that code reacts. Perfect children cannot be stamped out like cookies from a cookie cutter. There are, admittedly, genetic faults that might be able to be modified or even corrected but genetics is an extremely tricky business and not well understood at all at this time.