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10 Sep 2009, 1:18 pm

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I am the Alpha and the Omega, the ends of the bell curve and all points in between. Death holds no more power over me than does life, and I fear both equally.


From my perspective, you'll die and with your attitude, you'll probably die very let down.


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10 Sep 2009, 3:19 pm

I guess that means we'll all have to do with the rest of the Greek alphabet. No more 'alpha dogs', etc, we have to pay royalties...;)

as for the rest

the worms crawl in
the worms crawl out...



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10 Sep 2009, 4:21 pm

I'm with the J. M. Barrie option: an awfully big adventure. And if I'm wrong, I won't be there to know about it.

If, however, there turns out to be a fire-and-brimstone Hell, I shall be busy organizing the escape party... :twisted:


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10 Sep 2009, 7:38 pm

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i have thought a bit about it and i think that death is like a permanent "anesthetic".
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i can not imagine the nothingness of death multiplied by the abundance of infinite external duration.

sorry if my post is hard to understand.


I agree with your explanation, b9 - and I did understand it. I imagine it as a sleep you never wake up from. But instead of being a temporary period of nonconsciousness like sleep, every part of your consciousness simply disappears. As if everything that makes you you is forgotten. Not only that, but from the perspective of the one who's dying, it's not you who's going away, it's everyone and everything else. Your room, the sound of the TV, what day of the week it is, how it feels to blink your eyes. Very unnerving and terrible to consider - you would go crazy if you did. But fortunately, you won't realize it when it happens. "A nothingness we cannot imagine" puts it very well.

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10 Sep 2009, 7:46 pm

OK, this thread is depressing as hell....>_<;


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10 Sep 2009, 8:40 pm

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OK, this thread is depressing as hell....>_<;


Ultimate nothingness is what we all experienced before we were born. Didn't bother me a bit. I'm sure that if there is a Hell it's a good deal more depressing.



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10 Sep 2009, 9:07 pm

Sand wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
OK, this thread is depressing as hell....>_<;


Ultimate nothingness is what we all experienced before we were born. Didn't bother me a bit. I'm sure that if there is a Hell it's a good deal more depressing.


The thought of it may not bother you and it probably wouldn't bother me in the event of my death. However the thought of it now while I'm still alive does in fact bother me.

Nothingness is still a depressing thought whenever I think about those who were very close and precious to me now gone. I'm still having to get therapy and am still stifling through the process of just accepting as if it was nothing.

Perhaps, it isn't so much the death itself but that you and I share different feelings and emotions on the subject matter of loss.


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10 Sep 2009, 9:42 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Sand wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
OK, this thread is depressing as hell....>_<;


Ultimate nothingness is what we all experienced before we were born. Didn't bother me a bit. I'm sure that if there is a Hell it's a good deal more depressing.


The thought of it may not bother you and it probably wouldn't bother me in the event of my death. However the thought of it now while I'm still alive does in fact bother me.

Nothingness is still a depressing thought whenever I think about those who were very close and precious to me now gone. I'm still having to get therapy and am still stifling through the process of just accepting as if it was nothing.

Perhaps, it isn't so much the death itself but that you and I share different feelings and emotions on the subject matter of loss.


The thoughts of loss are very much entwined with my understanding of all knowledge we have of the external world. I have lost very close people in my life and I very much regret their disappearance but I am aware that that piece of meat in my skull is aware of the outside universe only through my senses and how I integrate what comes in through them. As we know people and the world we slowly built them into the reality inside our heads and that is all we know about them. When they die in the real world that dynamic image still lives inside our heads and it is the necessity of coming to terms with reality that makes us kill the person inside our heads and that is a long and very painful process. It takes, for me, about 10 years before it stops tearing me apart and I can accept the death of someone I've loved. But it is necessary to stay alive and sane myself.

THE MAJESTY OF DEATH

The majesty of death
Cannot reign without love.
All power draws its strings
From the intimates of common things
That cross and tie our lives
From day to day, one to another;
The touch, the look, the joy
Of living in a world to share
In happiness and misery.
Time blooms with wondrous insights
That intensify when held in hands
Together.
To feel and know each other's universe
Weaves a web of mutuality that
When ripped by death
Leaves threads
Swinging in a midnight wind.



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11 Sep 2009, 5:17 am

[quote=topic name]So your dead, now what[/quote]

you're*

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http://www.lightafterlife.com/



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11 Sep 2009, 7:08 am

Sand wrote:

THE MAJESTY OF DEATH

The majesty of death
Cannot reign without love.
All power draws its strings
From the intimates of common things
That cross and tie our lives
From day to day, one to another;
The touch, the look, the joy
Of living in a world to share
In happiness and misery.
Time blooms with wondrous insights
That intensify when held in hands
Together.
To feel and know each other's universe
Weaves a web of mutuality that
When ripped by death
Leaves threads
Swinging in a midnight wind.


In the end, Entropy wins. Such is the world. We had best make the best of this.

ruveyn



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11 Sep 2009, 7:40 am

Our brain holds all our thought processes. When our brain stops to function, we just cease to exist. We did just fine not existing the humonguous time before we were born, is it really such a farfetched concept? Stop worrying about life after death, and we shall worry about life after birth.


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11 Sep 2009, 10:57 am

ruveyn wrote:
In the end, Entropy wins. Such is the world. We had best make the best of this.
ruveyn

what is the use of "making the best" of anything that falls into the jaws of inevitable annihilation?
temporary states of notions of secure permanence are always terminal.

i am just a witness to a slew of events that sweep in the stream of time past my senses.
i can relax on the shore and watch, or i can hop in and try to swim to nowhere through the insurmountable rapids of inevitability.



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11 Sep 2009, 11:10 am

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Just curious as to others thoughts about what happens beyond death. I am not talking religion here. Been there done that. Do we 'sleep perchance to dream', float off amongst the clouds. Lurk around down here pestering children and relatives. Or are we just worm food. Your thoughts?


worm food. and we dont even get to enjoy it.


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11 Sep 2009, 11:50 am

I believe when we die we leave everything we have behind us and take everything that we are with us. That is to say, I believe we take our souls to God. And if I'm wrong about this, I really don't have anything to lose because the ground has no regrets.


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11 Sep 2009, 12:04 pm

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I believe when we die we leave everything we have behind us and take everything that we are with us. That is to say, I believe we take our souls to God. And if I'm wrong about this, I really don't have anything to lose because the ground has no regrets.


And if you're wrong you'll never find out.



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11 Sep 2009, 1:18 pm

b9 wrote:
what is the use of "making the best" of anything that falls into the jaws of inevitable annihilation?
temporary states of notions of secure permanence are always terminal.

i am just a witness to a slew of events that sweep in the stream of time past my senses.
i can relax on the shore and watch, or i can hop in and try to swim to nowhere through the insurmountable rapids of inevitability.


You can either be happy with your portion or be miserable with your portion. You choose.

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