Are there any Christians on the forum? :-)

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Thanks for the link Mud and Stars. Much appreciated

Sorry for any offense my post caused - it was inadvertent. Perhaps i could have titled/phrased the post more appropriately. Dent arthar Dent i shall continue to embace my self delusion, perhaps i'm just not of sufficent intellectual stature to cope with scientific reasoning but at the end of the day science does not equip you with peace, joy and reassurance it only generates more questions, so i'll take my chances.

Further, i didn't ask if there were other Christians floating around to segregate or show favour to Christians, merely to discuss having AS with someone singing from the same hymn sheet once in a while

You weren't offensive....at least in my opinion.

I was kind of kidding around when I said that but yeah this place is more of a war zone than a religious meet-up lol.

It's not about religion being free from critical analysis. Sometimes people need a space to discuss and explore their faith (and this includes critical analysis and even challenging some aspects of a faith) without being shouted down by rabid atheists.

Such things are better done at a church than on the Internet, though. Wherever Christians organize on the net, it tends to be the crazy kind.

I think most people have a little space free from critical analysis, usually close to where they place their identity. For some people, this is their religion, and honestly, I don't think we can deny most groups this little space to some extent without being a jerk. The best we can do is just subject the ideas to critical analysis when they leave their special space.

And of course, Orwell's point is also valid.

After all, a discussion on the trinity, or the atonement, or hell or so on does need some ability for there to be limited grounds to this discussion, rather than allowing for the entire premises to be overthrown. Otherwise, the exploration wouldn't get anywhere. The radical left has forums to do the exact same thing in privacy, where capitalists are kept into their little ghetto and leftists are given free reign of the forum to explore ideas.

The case for this seems stronger with religious ideas given that there are a lot of people with similar religious ideas(large numbers of Christians, and perhaps other groups) and religious ideas can truly be private more so than other ideas like political ideas can.


I also do agree that it would be nice for people of religion to have a place for discussion about their experiences and beliefs. The major issue is just that it is hard to enforce things like that. The moment a person has one opinion, the person who thinks the opposite is also likely to pop up and start yelling.... like DentArthurDent.


Sort of true.

What about me AG, how come I didn't get any credit?....

What... with an avatar like yours bringing all these heathen images to a Christian Forum... black cat familiars, nasty orange vegatables and .... witches.... At least it's not that satanic "Potter" boy

Sometimes I think christians could learn a thing or two from satan. You look at Harry Potter for instance, and see how much the witch behind it made $$$$. If it wasn't for Satan she'd still be in the poor house....

Look, if I start treating women as equals online, then I don't see how I can feel justified when I treat them unequally offline. And you know, somebody has gotta make me sandwiches and get paid 75 cents to my dollar, right?

I dunno, if you aren't excluding some group from being considered equally human, then it's not living, y'know? And I already made my peace with homosexuals, atheists, and brown people.

The 'religion' for some here is atheism and secularism. This kind of replying by gbollard makes it clear why some prefer a site where you're not portrayed as a fool when you are christian (or have another religion).

Ok, WhiskeyInTheJar, how would you have gbollard talk? I am just curious, as I didn't see how gbollard was being rude in this response. I hope you don't perceive me as rude when asking this.

@awesomegl. Gbollard is sarcastic here, don't you see that?

No. I didn't see that. I mean, I know that he seems to alternate between joking and seriousness, but I saw nothing in the quoted section that seems to indicate a lack of seriousness in what was being say. Am I missing something?

Actually I was being mildly serious there... lack of smiley faces indicates that.

I guess that what I'm saying is that suppose for instance that a group wanted to discuss;

"How the dinosaurs fit into creationist theory"

You could have a really cool and interesting discussion on that.

Sure, I know that many people (myself included) consider the earth to be a little older than the bible says but jumping in and saying that or throwing massive amounts of geological evidence doesn't help anyone - it just annoys people and detracts from a possibly interesting conversation.

I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't challenge religion. I firmly believe that they should.... but.... I also think that those who want to believe should be able to request an option to "believe peacefully" without being corrected or harrassed.

It's similar to the women's forum. I don't particularly like the idea that it's open to men because I feel embarrassed when I follow an RSS feed and end up there. (I don't believe that they should need a place of their own either) but that's beside the point. Sometimes, the OP on a thread specifically states that they only want female opinions - I think it's cool that we can sometimes respect that.

I thought so, and you were expressing a relatively serious idea too!


And we also basically agree on proper etiquette for these things as well.

Also, listen to this video starting at 2:34 and you will listen to something amazing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bdtlNUlx4

Wow...

Now that's a cool song... up there with many of Monty Python's ones.

Thats fine, but to think that it is OK for a religionists to request there own space on WP speaks volumes of the attitude of many 'believers' that religion should be beyond critique. I have know problem with Christian groups setting up their own sites with their own rules etc but WP whilst privately owned is still very much a diverse and public site.

What next, start enforcing and strengthening blasphemy laws, ooops too late!! ! its already happened in Ireland