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14 Dec 2009, 11:30 pm

"It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations. Bartlett's Familiar Quotations is an admirable work, and I studied it intently. The quotations when engraved upon the memory give you good thoughts. They also make you anxious to read the authors and look for more." Winston Churchill. ( http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26761.html )

Not my favourite, but the most appropriate one i could think of.



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15 Dec 2009, 10:59 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
"The worst thing is to play the 'we are all human' game. I am not human. I am a monster. It is not . . . that I wear the mask of a theoretician and underneath I am a warm human being. I am a monster who plays, pretends he is human." - Slavoj Zizek


"Human" and "monster" are not exclusive. He is a human, whether he understands it, acknowledges it, likes it or believes he can argue the fact out of existence. :wink: Silly philosopher. :lol:

(edit - though perhaps if the original quote is not in English, it makes more sense?)


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15 Dec 2009, 11:21 am

Sand wrote:
Not only does God play dice, but... he sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen.
Stephen Hawking


that is a very interesting quote.
i really must read more that he wrote.

it does seem conceptually limited and artistically licensed.

it may be said also that every possible "die" is "loaded".

if i return to basal physical reality and consider a die, then one sees that the six concave chunks of die gouged from the "six" side makes that side of the die lighter than the opposite side which has only one concave scoop taken from it.
people may delicately insert weights during the manufacture of dice to compensate for the symmetric imbalance of the center of gravity of them. but people can not perfectly annihilate asymmetry in dice.
i think that the concept of "dice" in einsteins quote is to convey that there can be no truly random event.
asymmetry of effect always results in an inevitable manifestation.

that is all i am prepared to say as i am too tired to debate with anyone.



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15 Dec 2009, 11:28 am

said in a US southern hick accent......"if i'd a known i'd be out by now, i woulda murdered ya 25 years ago"



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15 Dec 2009, 11:35 pm

The universe doesn't give a damn. You either figure out how to deal with it or you're dead. - Ivan Oykane



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15 Dec 2009, 11:50 pm

As a man gets older he gets used to trying in vain to discover eyeglasses that are lying clearly in front of him. This is the experience of any scientist trying to perceive reality. - Emma Tieda