An Afghan parliament member suggested....

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It would have been a great thing if the US had not financed and armed (and maybe trained) the Mujahideen during the administrations of Carter and Reagan with fundings up to $630 million a year.


From Time

"And the CIA began one of its longest and most expensive covert operations, supplying billions of dollars in arms to a collection of Afghan guerrillas fighting the Soviets. The arms shipments included Stinger missiles, the shoulder-fired, antiaircraft weapons that were used with deadly accuracy against Soviet helicopters and that are now in circulation among terrorists who have fired such weapons at commercial airliners. Among the rebel recipients of U.S. arms: Osama bin Laden."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -2,00.html

and why is that? did you experience a vision in your sleep last night that told you so? it must be pretty rad to be a real-life prophet.


maybe i shouldn't jump to criticizing unsupported conjecture with prophecy jokes.

maybe something about theists going to war with each other over variations in their theology.... no good. too direct.

i know! mock the statement with a visualization of atheists kicking their own butts!

Can we have a thread not hijacked by the ongoing atheist/ theist battle? I honestly don't give that much of a good god-damn what you believe so long as you can shut up about it.

I also forgot what I was gonna write about the MP, but it was probably about how much he sucks. I'll have a more eloquent reply in the morning, I hope.

we could probably have a thread not hijacked by the ongoing atheist/theist battle but this thread is about religious extremists advocating death to other religionists. a thread started by a religious fundamentalist.


.....this thread was asking for it.

as for hijacking.... does that mean i can drive the thread down the street for some ice cream? or is this more of the "crap, i forgot to learn how to land before hijacking this plane" kind of hijacking? 'cause i can't land a thread....

I guess you've got a point there, it does get old pretty quick though. Stubborn stubborn people.
Plus, I suppose you could take it for a drive. I mean, it is an abstract idea and I think the closest you'd get is driving a circuit board down the street, but even that's a bit far-fetched. Good luck though

The problem with such ingenius logic being that after a while Muslims will have to adjust to Western Economic realities and realize having hundreds of kids isn't all that productive. Since many Muslim immigrants are professional class (a strata that tends to have the least children) this won't take overly long.

I'm much more afraid about fundamentalists such as yourself trying to run secular Anglo-American democracy into the ground (given you're "no Plebeians" comment, I see this fear is not irrational).

Well, we can all rest easy now thanks to Master Pedant and his crystal ball.

Master Pedant, the economic reality in the West at the moment is that Western governments are perfectly happy to subdisize the large families of Muslims. As Muslims gain political power, why should this change? What makes you think Muslims are going to adjust to the West rather than recreate the conditions of their ancestral homeland?

In addition to this, there is the issue of ongoing Muslim immigration to the West, which neither you nor parakeet (even though I am closer in agreement with him) deal with: is that going to continue indefinitely? If so, why should it? If not, who's going to stop it, and how?

is it the religion you object to, or just the extremists?

or is it the people who practice that religion?

are you fine with them practicing extremism with their fundamentalism as long as they do it within their own borders?

the beauty of a secular society is that kooks can believe whatever they want and [b]i get to make fun of it[/u]. it's not perfect, but it's better than trying to kill everyone who refuses to believe in our brand of skyfairyism.

as to "the issue of ongoing Muslim immigration," it's really not that big of an issue. sharia law isn't going to come with them. if they liked it so much, you probably wouldn't be worried about them coming to your home and outpopulating your favorite peoples.

if it's that big of an issue, take a few extra wives and do your part.

The overall decline of Muslim birthrates in all Islamic countries except Africa makes it likely the trend will occur in the West. Economics incentives or not, its a pain in the arse to own a flat screen TV, $500 000 house, and nine children.

http://tkcollier.wordpress.com/2009/05/ ... worldwide/

Aside from your xenophobia and nationalism, is there any reason you see for the West to be the exception to the trend of falling Muslim birthrates?

Codarac is an ethnic nationalist who supports the BNP. He's even published threads on Jews killing the Czars of Russia.

He has no problem with extremism. He is an extremist.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt70105.html <--- Codarac's thread

Yes, be sure to remove the largest circuit board from your computer casing and attempt to drive it down the street. Be sure to step on it as hard as possible, since it wont go as fast as a regular vehicle.