Jewish-Arab peace

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Why can't they both live in Israel if they both think its so great. Honestly I just feel bad for the civillians who want peace and get caught in the crossfire.

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Omerik,

I know you mean well and agree with your general sentiment, but please don't conflate Jews with Israelis. As an American Jew I'm not in conflict with Arabs. Incidentally, there are Arab Jews but the term has fallen into disuse because it leads to confusion. Perhaps the clearest thing to say is Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

I'm a Jew (granted, not as religously observant as others on here, but I'm working on that), and I think at the same time, you could say I'm pretty Zionist in that I believe Israel is only for Jews. That being said, I believe that the Palestinians need their own state, specifically Gaza and the West Bank--as far as I'm concerned, the Golan is irrelevant to Palestinian statehood. I think the settlers are doing more harm than good, but overall, I don't see how Israel is supposed to have peace with people who believe it is a commandment from Allah that they destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. For us, Hamas and Hezbollah are not much different from Hitler.

So of course, the ninth shura of the Koran, which last time I checked was pretty violent, has absolutely nothing to do about killing infidels...</sarcasm>

In this case, Zionist=Jew, when we discount the Christian Zionist movement. And how about the Druze, Bedouin, and Circassians in Israel? Somehow I doubt Hamas and Hezbollah see the difference, as long as they wear IDF green. The land on which the State of Israel stands (not counting Gaza, and the West Bank, since they aren't Israeli territory, nor the Golan Heights, since it was won in a war) should be enough for Jews everywhere...since what the UN had so kindly 'gave' us in the 40s was tantamount to robbery.

Let's see.

In 1948 the United Nations described a Jewish state in part of Palestine despite the fact that 90% of the land was owned by Arabs.

So the Jews went apeshit and drove 750,000 Palestinians off their land and into surrounding countries where they live to this day.

Ever since then they have been taking more and more land that wasn't in the original mandate.

Then they proceeded to take more and more land. They have driven a million and a half Palestinians into the Gaza Strip which keeps getting smaller and smaller.

They are taking more and more of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

"The Jew grabs your throat and screams that he is being attacked".

Where is Hitler when we really need him"?

Actually Ska, I believe the Law of Return grants automatic Israeli citizenship to anyone who can prove that at least one of their parents or one of their grandparents, either side, is/was Jewish. I think you may have this confused with the traditional method of determining who is a Jew, which is indeed via maternity.

@Wombat: I'm going to ask you to take back your last line re: where's Hitler when you need him? Virtually everyone in my father's family was murdered by the Nazis, with the exception of my grandparents. Those are fighting words.

Israel won the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and Jerusalem in a war that the Egyptians and Jordanians lost...they are the spoils of that war, and to the victor goes the spoils (although it probably would've been better had they been handed back afterwards given how much trouble they've caused).

Quote from Tim Minchin...