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08 Sep 2010, 10:15 am

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08 Sep 2010, 10:26 am

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And people still wonder why our country is full of crazy people who believe any dumb myth thrown their way.


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08 Sep 2010, 1:04 pm

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It's quality entertainment!


I don't know about THAT. But the UFO stuff? That's when the Hitler Channel, I mean, The history channel combined the two last night: nazi UFO's.



I noticed that in the TV guide too! Nazi UFO's!
Theyve become a real parody of themselves.

Theyve gone through good and bad phases. They were the "all hitler all of the time channel" for a long time ( not just because of wwII stuff, but also their obsession with every aspect of Hitler's biography- they even had a show called "High Hitler" devoted to hitler's relationship with his pharmacists.)

But then they got diversified and had a number a very good documentaries about the Kennedies (worthy of PBS), and other sundry subjects.
But with 2012 approaching they descended into the paranormal. And now theyre bringing back Hitler and combining him WITH the paranormal! It is rather pathetic pandering for ratings.



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08 Sep 2010, 3:22 pm

Oh please... Hitler the anti-Christ? lol

Look, it's fun being one of the few "resident Christians" on here. But anyone saying Hitler is the fulfillment of "anti-Christ" prophecy clearly do not know what they're talking about. The Anti-Christ is a figure bent on seducing the entire world. Hitler didn't care about the world--he cared about Germany. Plus, someone who is portrayed and remembered (even by former Nazis) as being a decidedly "evil" character could never take the role of someone trying to fool everyone.

My opinion on Hitler and Christian prophecy is the role that Nazi Germany had in unintentionally strengthening Zionism and the ultimate rise of a new Israeli state. My belief is that, while God doesn't "make" people do bad or evil things, He does work THROUGH the horrors of evil people. I believe that the present nation of Israel may be either a direct or indirect (or both) result of the atrocities of "great" (using that term loosely) leaders, of which Hitler is one, but he is certainly not alone.

Yeah... The History Channel is certainly good for a few laughs. I saw the one on "High Hitler," which probably isn't really far from the truth. I wonder about the one of Hitler and the "spiritualist" movement, though. Hitler doesn't strike me as the kind of guy involved in New Age-ish religion. Legend/folklore is always inspiring when it comes to nationalist motivations, but really being deep in a lot of esoteric garbage would have immediately struck someone of Hitler's experience as das hokey-cokey. I could be wrong, of course...

But Nazis and UFOs??? Heh...sorry I missed that one. I'll remember that if a "weather balloon" with a swastika crashes in my backyard!



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08 Sep 2010, 4:35 pm

Nazis UFOs, I remember watching a documentary, although I don't remember if it was exactly from the History Channel, this was about a supposedly Nazi project about building aircrafts in the form of flying saucers, so that means those "UFOs" would have been earthly products rather than alien, and the documentary was focused on the idea of the development of such aircrafts rather than aliens having to do with the nazis.


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08 Sep 2010, 6:15 pm

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Nazis UFOs, I remember watching a documentary, although I don't remember if it was exactly from the History Channel, this was about a supposedly Nazi project about building aircrafts in the form of flying saucers, so that means those "UFOs" would have been earthly products rather than alien, and the documentary was focused on the idea of the development of such aircrafts rather than aliens having to do with the nazis.


The description I read included aliens.


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08 Sep 2010, 6:30 pm

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More like the religious psychopath channel, amirite?


But seriously...I like actual history and whenever I look to see what's on the channel, all there ever is now are various conspiracies about Judas being a Satanic agent or how the Nazis fit into Christian prophecy. That garbage isn't history. It isn't even close to history, it's all fiction and very poorly developed conspiracy theories.

Since when is it history to give endtimes lunatics free airtime to pass their disease on to others?


If you actually listen to the junk they produce, you'd notice that it's only the subject matter which is disturbing to you. The conclusions on matters, as far as I've watched the History Channel previously (circa 2007), are near invariably secular in nature. You find it disturbing probably because it has a quasi-religious theme, but in so far as they actually provide opinions you might as well be reading Nietzsche.



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08 Sep 2010, 6:31 pm

I think a lot of this is going to be moot soon enough anyway, I'm hearing more and more people say that they don't really watch tv in the usual way anymore, they use on demand type services or the internet to pick and choose their shows rather than watching a "channel".

I know I personally haven't had cable in years, right now I use the Netflix instant service to watch tv shows, I download them, or I buy the DVD sets, I've become much more discriminating in what I watch.


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08 Sep 2010, 6:32 pm

I like History Channel. There's no other channel on our cable network that shows archaeology programs. Wish they'd show them more often, tho...



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08 Sep 2010, 6:57 pm

Televised history topic

I prefer TVO and PBS, but once in a while my station called History Television has some good programmes. :)


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08 Sep 2010, 9:48 pm

I prefer the science channel but even that isn't 80%.


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08 Sep 2010, 10:05 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you actually listen to the junk they produce, you'd notice that it's only the subject matter which is disturbing to you. The conclusions on matters, as far as I've watched the History Channel previously (circa 2007), are near invariably secular in nature.

well, it may seem like that to you but from the little I have seen, some shows regarding religious themes haven't shown any single secular view but rather different points of views to the same issue, and usually it gets inconclusive to the end, perhaps leaving the audience to make their own judgements after that, but I think that depends on the show, like trying to come up a bit impartial, or to give that appareance, although with a bit of entertainment. At least I can say that some shows from History seem more of like that than National Geographic for example.

On the other hand they have shows, such as the nostradamus crap, monsterquest, and other stuff that appeal to the supernatural.


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08 Sep 2010, 10:17 pm

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as I've watched the History Channel previously (circa 2007), are near invariably secular in nature.


Yeah, that's changed.


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08 Sep 2010, 10:54 pm

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If you actually listen to the junk they produce, you'd notice that it's only the subject matter which is disturbing to you. The conclusions on matters, as far as I've watched the History Channel previously (circa 2007), are near invariably secular in nature.

well, it may seem like that to you but from the little I have seen, some shows regarding religious themes haven't shown any single secular view but rather different points of views to the same issue, and usually it gets inconclusive to the end, perhaps leaving the audience to make their own judgements after that, but I think that depends on the show, like trying to come up a bit impartial, or to give that appareance, although with a bit of entertainment. At least I can say that some shows from History seem more of like that than National Geographic for example.

On the other hand they have shows, such as the nostradamus crap, monsterquest, and other stuff that appeal to the supernatural.


To be honest, and considering what the History Channel IS as opposed to what it IS NOT, isn't the goal of presenting balanced views on "history," politics, religion, and so on to appeal to an audience and ask them to draw their own conclusions? In that regard, it's not unlike discussions in this forum, just with better multimedia and more expensive production. ;) There's not a real sense of "win/lose" other than your own opinion of whether a debate is won/lost, and even then arguments are won on certain points and lost on others, a sort of both-and-neither kind of thing depending on the perspective of the reader.

Now, the point of HC is more entertainment than education. It's fairly obvious when the content is factual and when it's not. I think it appeals more to trailer-trash rednecks like myself, and it's a lot classier than sitting on the porch, drinking beer, watching the bug zapper while eating pickled pork lips. It becomes really obvious who their target demographic is when they show all the conspiracy theory and secret society programs, like how America was started by Freemasons, and all the other stuff about the Illuminati, blah, blah, blah. Those things are nothing if not sensationalism. It only gets to be a problem when it inspires you to buy as many assault rifles as you can with your inheritance, build a cabin in a secluded area in the mountains, take up the banjo, homeschool your kids, teach them how to shoot, and move all your sister-wives to your private mountain home.



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09 Sep 2010, 7:01 am

AngelRho wrote:
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If you actually listen to the junk they produce, you'd notice that it's only the subject matter which is disturbing to you. The conclusions on matters, as far as I've watched the History Channel previously (circa 2007), are near invariably secular in nature.

well, it may seem like that to you but from the little I have seen, some shows regarding religious themes haven't shown any single secular view but rather different points of views to the same issue, and usually it gets inconclusive to the end, perhaps leaving the audience to make their own judgements after that, but I think that depends on the show, like trying to come up a bit impartial, or to give that appareance, although with a bit of entertainment. At least I can say that some shows from History seem more of like that than National Geographic for example.

On the other hand they have shows, such as the nostradamus crap, monsterquest, and other stuff that appeal to the supernatural.


To be honest, and considering what the History Channel IS as opposed to what it IS NOT, isn't the goal of presenting balanced views on "history," politics, religion, and so on to appeal to an audience and ask them to draw their own conclusions? In that regard, it's not unlike discussions in this forum, just with better multimedia and more expensive production. ;) There's not a real sense of "win/lose" other than your own opinion of whether a debate is won/lost, and even then arguments are won on certain points and lost on others, a sort of both-and-neither kind of thing depending on the perspective of the reader.

Now, the point of HC is more entertainment than education. It's fairly obvious when the content is factual and when it's not. I think it appeals more to trailer-trash rednecks like myself, and it's a lot classier than sitting on the porch, drinking beer, watching the bug zapper while eating pickled pork lips. It becomes really obvious who their target demographic is when they show all the conspiracy theory and secret society programs, like how America was started by Freemasons, and all the other stuff about the Illuminati, blah, blah, blah. Those things are nothing if not sensationalism. It only gets to be a problem when it inspires you to buy as many assault rifles as you can with your inheritance, build a cabin in a secluded area in the mountains, take up the banjo, homeschool your kids, teach them how to shoot, and move all your sister-wives to your private mountain home.


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09 Sep 2010, 8:11 am

Redneck channel topic

I can see it now...Billy Joe McAllister jumping off the Tallahassee Bridge, the Ozark Mountain Daredevils and Jackie Blue, Family Fueds, Arnold the pig and Green Acres, Flatt and Scruggs and HeeHaw, and the Beverly Hillbillies thrown in to what AngelRho proposed. :P

And do not forget the KKK, and burning the Qu'ran :roll:

24 hour Good Ol'Boys Network.


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