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22 Sep 2010, 5:51 pm

That strange phenomenon exist is an undeniable fact, what is not factual is the ascribing of these events to supernatural forces. Whilst it the existence of mediums, poltergeists, and other supernatural elements may be possible, to my mind they are not particularly plausible. Personally I would rather go searching for a natural explanation.

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22 Sep 2010, 9:02 pm

Dent, this one's for you:

Trance and Possession disorder

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22 Sep 2010, 9:05 pm

AngelRho wrote:

Dent, this one's for you:

Trance and Possession disorder

Or dissociative disorder.

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22 Sep 2010, 10:00 pm

Orwell wrote:

The dead communicate with me all the time, but it only goes one way, and it tends to be fragmentary and incomplete. I think the word for it is "history."

I thought that was "forensics"

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22 Sep 2010, 10:17 pm

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The thing is, I just recently found out that I was born a medium (this runs in my mother's side of the family), while this ability is dormant and I have not actually seen or communicated with spirits since I was a small child,

"Seeing things" when you are a small child, that is problematic itself to consider it "real", I mean, little children's imagination and interpretation of things regarding reality is not so much reliable when it comes to the supernatural, I have heard people claiming seeing things when little children, but not when they are older, and there is a reason why, and no, it isn't because the "innocence and pure of heart" crap.

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but they do not seem to say much about those who were BORN capable of such things, and they don't really seem to answer my question of "why?". I am turning to you guys for your opinions on the matter, not because I think anyone who replies to this knows more than, or as much as, God himself.

This is the last place to ask about this, I believe most people here reject the idea that there is such a thing, so the question is pointless, from a christian point of view though, some could say that those are the work of demons, and that you have a choice to make, to reject those "calls" and to follow Christ instead.

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PLEASE believe me when I say this and do not assume I am a "wacko" or "looney-tunes". I really need some help.

I think some may assume that you were not really serious.

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23 Sep 2010, 4:07 am

Orwell wrote:

You are not a medium. Just refrain from using your nonexistent abilities and you'll be fine.

I find the hypocrisy of this statement exquisite. Its fine for you to believe the hocus pocus that is the story of christ, but someone who believes in ghosts and that they can communicate with them; 'heck no! they must be delusional'. :roll:

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23 Sep 2010, 4:18 am

AngelRho wrote:

Dent, this one's for you:

Trance and Possession disorder

Except, whilst the posted youtube vid discussed possession, it was more concerned with the movement of objects. I do vaguely remember the story from when I was a kid, and have heard of many other similar tales. Personally I have lived in what I thought was a 'haunted' pub, and experienced odd sounds, footsteps, knockings etc. At the time I fully ascribed these events to supernatural causes, now I happily put them into the 'I dont know' category. I suspect that the answer to these 'supernatural occurrence's ' is something we will in time, be able to explain fully and within natural laws; maybe quantum, or multiverse theories hold the answer.

I doubt that we have the ability to survive our own death in any way, other than as organic fertiliser

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23 Sep 2010, 8:58 pm

OP, maybe you could talk to a member of the clergy about your concerns. Another thing you could consider is researching the history of the perspectives you mentioned. If you're relying on the Bible for how to sort it out ethically, be sure that you are aware of when those parts of the Bible were written and under what circumstances. Often, prohibitions come about because of the conditions (cultural, religious, political, etc.) of a certain time and place. People don't still practice everything that's written in the Bible - for example, "not suffering a witch to live" - I forget where that's from exactly, but I doubt it's hard to find with google.

Anyway, your question is a moral one, so examine the morals themselves and see what you come up with. There's plenty of the supernatural that is a large part of Christianity - prophets, visions, numbers, sigils, exorcisms, etc. Also, how do you know that all the beings you see are dead? If you believe in God, then would you not also believe in other beings such as angels, demons, messengers, etc.?

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23 Sep 2010, 9:14 pm

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The thing is, I just recently found out that I was born a medium

Prove it.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Use it your 'ability' then give the money to a charity. It's what 'god' would want you to do.

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23 Sep 2010, 10:08 pm

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The fact that we don't still participate in witch hunts and the like is that, over time, we've come to an understanding of God as merciful. We realize that God values ALL people. Forcing conversions violates the will of the person, which is not something God Himself does. Now, those kinds of things DID apply to ancient Israel, the reason being that Israel was to be an example nation to the rest of the world, sharing the love of God and God's law with others who would believe. Within the nation of Israel, sorcery/witchcraft, necromancy, and other mystical rites associated with worshipping other gods than the true God was NOT to be tolerated among God's covenant people. The punishment of witches and sorcerers as well as other idolators was necessarily harsh because God's people ought to have known better.

Such behavior is still not to be tolerated, but not in the sense that people have to die. Rather, the goal is to present the truth in hopes that some will accept it and adopt a new life in Christ.

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24 Sep 2010, 2:06 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:

Orwell wrote:

You are not a medium. Just refrain from using your nonexistent abilities and you'll be fine.

I suppose atheists agree with that notion of being an irony.

Although, Orwell sounds like a deist

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24 Sep 2010, 2:11 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Prove it.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

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25 Sep 2010, 6:45 am

I'm not at liberty to tell you anything as corruption flows through my veins.

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29 Sep 2010, 3:49 am

AngelRho wrote:

happymusic wrote:

I just wanted to know, is there any way that I can use my abilities for a Godly purpose? I also know that you said God could be using the form of spirits to communicate with me, but I've only heard of the Angel of the Lord doing it and not God himself. Can you please give me a thorough explanation of what you meant?

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29 Sep 2010, 6:43 am

I hope my PM to you was helpful.

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08 Oct 2010, 11:19 am

I knew someone who could "sense" when a person or animal has died or is about to die, and she is almost 100% correct.

I will discourage you trying to contact dead people, but talk to your religious leader (priest, pastor, rabbi, imam, etc.). He or she may have some insight.

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