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What is your stance upon freedom of speech?
I am for freedom of speech, regardless of whether I may get offended at the words of others or not. 75%  75%  [ 15 ]
I am for freedom of speech, but only that variety of speech I particularly wish to hear. 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
I am against freedom of speech in general. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I am a dinosaur. RAWR. (other) 20%  20%  [ 4 ]
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15 Oct 2010, 3:20 am

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I am against spamming the forum with thread after thread of utter nonsense.


Great! When do you stop posting?


Are you into suppressing people's views now? ;)


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15 Oct 2010, 4:01 am

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Are you into suppressing people's views now? ;)


Nope, I was under the impression that was your bag. Hmm, guess I can add "can't handle his own medicine" to your posting jacket; you really ought to stay away from snark if you're not comfortable with it being lobbed back at you.


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15 Oct 2010, 5:29 am

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Are you into suppressing people's views now? ;)


Nope, I was under the impression that was your bag. Hmm, guess I can add "can't handle his own medicine" to your posting jacket; you really ought to stay away from snark if you're not comfortable with it being lobbed back at you.


I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


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15 Oct 2010, 6:49 am

BigK wrote:
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Are you into suppressing people's views now? ;)


Nope, I was under the impression that was your bag. Hmm, guess I can add "can't handle his own medicine" to your posting jacket; you really ought to stay away from snark if you're not comfortable with it being lobbed back at you.


I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


If BigK can handle me asking him if he's a terrorist sympathizer, he can't be all bad!



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15 Oct 2010, 12:29 pm

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I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


...And yet you've made it abundantly clear you want to neuter the forum, while still taking shots at members with whom you disagree...


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15 Oct 2010, 12:44 pm

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I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


...And yet you've made it abundantly clear you want to neuter the forum, while still taking shots at members with whom you disagree...


Neuter as in avoid their snide and nasty 'potshots'? So you don't like a bit of returning fire? What happened to free speech?


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15 Oct 2010, 1:00 pm

BigK wrote:
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I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


...And yet you've made it abundantly clear you want to neuter the forum, while still taking shots at members with whom you disagree...


Neuter as in avoid their snide and nasty 'potshots'? So you don't like a bit of returning fire? What happened to free speech?


Is it free speech you want or Free-Speech©? Free speech may include banter, but Free-Speech© is sterile of anything remotely potentially offensive.



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15 Oct 2010, 1:35 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


...And yet you've made it abundantly clear you want to neuter the forum, while still taking shots at members with whom you disagree...


Neuter as in avoid their snide and nasty 'potshots'? So you don't like a bit of returning fire? What happened to free speech?


Is it free speech you want or Free-Speech©? Free speech may include banter, but Free-Speech© is sterile of anything remotely potentially offensive.


which version of "free speech" disallows the use of the term "nigerian" as a substitute for a certain derogatory term used for black people by racists? i'd like to get behind that version.

now, i don't think you should be arrested or fined for calling people racial slurs but i don't understand why it should be considered protected speech on an internet forum.

if we can't have a ruling on something like that, then i don't see how anything could be out of bounds.

or should i have started a different thread to take this position to an unpleasant logical conclusion?



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15 Oct 2010, 1:55 pm

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I can handle all sorts Dox or I wouldn't be on this forum would I?


...And yet you've made it abundantly clear you want to neuter the forum, while still taking shots at members with whom you disagree...


Neuter as in avoid their snide and nasty 'potshots'? So you don't like a bit of returning fire? What happened to free speech?


Is it free speech you want or Free-Speech©? Free speech may include banter, but Free-Speech© is sterile of anything remotely potentially offensive.


which version of "free speech" disallows the use of the term "nigerian" as a substitute for a certain derogatory term used for black people by racists? i'd like to get behind that version.

now, i don't think you should be arrested or fined for calling people racial slurs but i don't understand why it should be considered protected speech on an internet forum.

if we can't have a ruling on something like that, then i don't see how anything could be out of bounds.

or should i have started a different thread to take this position to an unpleasant logical conclusion?


I don't like racial slurs either, like cracker, or patty, or whooper, or dago, or frog, or any of the other ones for any group. However, why don't you make a different thread where you mock freedom of speech on the basis of offensive words being used.



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15 Oct 2010, 4:12 pm

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which version of "free speech" disallows the use of the term "nigerian" as a substitute for a certain derogatory term used for black people by racists? i'd like to get behind that version


Just out of curiosity, would you be as offended if that poster had phrased his joke as "Negroes Against All Caucasian People" instead? That would also have fit the acronym, and while "negro" is anachronistic to my knowledge it's not pejorative. Since so many people keep pointing to that post as the "smoking gun" of rampant racism on this forum, I wonder if it's the terminology that's being objected to or the sentiment, since the sentiment is a member's opinion and thus protected.


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15 Oct 2010, 4:20 pm

^ I have a better fit for the Acronym. Would anyone like to hear it?



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15 Oct 2010, 4:53 pm

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^ I have a better fit for the Acronym. Would anyone like to hear it?


Hear ye, hear ye topic

Possibly, after you explain your username. :twisted:


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15 Oct 2010, 5:05 pm

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which version of "free speech" disallows the use of the term "nigerian" as a substitute for a certain derogatory term used for black people by racists? i'd like to get behind that version


Just out of curiosity, would you be as offended if that poster had phrased his joke as "Negroes Against All Caucasian People" instead? That would also have fit the acronym, and while "negro" is anachronistic to my knowledge it's not pejorative. Since so many people keep pointing to that post as the "smoking gun" of rampant racism on this forum, I wonder if it's the terminology that's being objected to or the sentiment, since the sentiment is a member's opinion and thus protected.


And you moan about people making potshots?


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15 Oct 2010, 5:05 pm

^ If I say it, can I have some kind of guarantee that I won't get warned or banned?



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15 Oct 2010, 5:05 pm

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^ I have a better fit for the Acronym. Would anyone like to hear it?


Only if it's clever, too many people here already can't get past your views and are blind to the mind behind some of your posts. I'm all for owning your beliefs and have and will go to bat for your right to voice your opinion, but I think you're having a bit too much fun scandalizing some of our more excitable members with your bluntness; I'm more interested in the guy who said Aspies should think hard before calling W a moron because he doesn't communicate well. You've proven your ability to go for the low hanging fruit and confound the liberals ("Racists™ aren't supposed to be articulate and knowledgeable!"), but that's hardly a challenge.


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Only if it's clever, too many people here already can't get past your views and are blind to the mind behind some of your posts. I'm all for owning your beliefs and have and will go to bat for your right to voice your opinion, but I think you're having a bit too much fun scandalizing some of our more excitable members with your bluntness; I'm more interested in the guy who said Aspies should think hard before calling W a moron because he doesn't communicate well. You've proven your ability to go for the low hanging fruit and confound the liberals ("Racists™ aren't supposed to be articulate and knowledgeable!"), but that's hardly a challenge.


^ Sweet. It seems you have me read like a book and pretty well pegged I guess.

Thanks for your openmindedness and not joining the "low hanging fruit" herd.

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NAACP - Now Apes Are Called People

(I hope I don't get reprimanded for that, but I think its funny in a platonic sense.) Also, there was way too much post buildup for it not to get posted.