Political shifts since the 2008 Reccession

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Does going bankrupt mean anything to you? Even if you taxed the "rich" at 100%, it wouldn't be enough to pay for your Canadian health care system same with Obamacare.

The rightwingers are quite simply correct in their assessment of the situation which is based on facts. One of the problems with people on the spectrum is that we tend to get stuck on things and are slow to change opinions on something. I can recognize it in myself, and I often work at trying to think of multiple possibilities before I reach a conclusion. You ever stop and consider that maybe the "rightwingers" are actually correct in their assessment of the situation?

The electoral shifts also have to do with the behavior of Politicans like Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

Care to show your math on that claim, mr factual?

The Canadian system is far more cost-efficient than is the American system. In fact, practically every other system is more cost-efficient than is the American system. If you want to increase deficits and decrease standard of living, go with the American system that's just a racket.

By the way, despite the deficit fetishism they still demand the usual corporate tax cuts... the whole primitive cult again, sacrifices to the rich will somehow cause bounty, failure to do so will bring wrath mentality.

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Most of America's systems are rackets. It's what happens when the oldest racket (religion) controls everyone.

Then why is the Canadian system going broke? And the healthcare system falling apart in America is partially due to Obamacare and an attempt to socialize medicine. Did we need some reforms yes, but we didn't need a failed model from the UK and Canada.

When life is very uncertain as it is in the USA with the real possibility of ruin at any moment, the only answer for many is to pray - the volatility that the Right prizes above all else is why the USA is more religious than other western societies.

Obamacare has nothing to do with the skyrocketing health costs in the USA and even twenty years it was far more expensive than "socialised medicine" systems were.

Actually it's something the Socialists/Communists, Islamic Extremists, and other Far Leftists want for different reasons.

xenon13, Conservatives in the United States love their country and want the country to be the best in the world.

Canada going broke? The plutocrats were claiming this in the 1990s, bad-mouthing their country, comparing it to Mexico and Argentina, when this was a complete and utter lie. These people should have been executed. They're far more worthy of this than Clifford Olson.

The ones who are insisting on sharpening the contradictions of capitalism, the worse, the better, are not liberals or progressives or mainstream socialists, it's the so-called conservatives. It's the Republicans who openly state their desire to sabotage the economy to destroy Obama. They're the anti-Americans in the USA. The Right are the anti-patriots who spit every day on their own country, and under the weight of their own venom deliver them not from any evil.

Who is claiming the dollar will collapse at any moment, that there'll be hyperinflation? Who is trying to engineer disaster? The Right is.

If you people are going to play the blame game at least make it more interesting, use sources. People will just ignore you out of hand otherwise.(on account of your looking like fools)

Well I have sources and those sources have sources.

Now the deficit commission has not only recognized it but argues that without a “death panel,” ObamaCare simply won’t work.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/02/d ... th-panels/


Looks like Sarah Palin deserves an apology...

What you call Obamacare is really Romneycare, a Republican plan that has been in place for several years in Massachusetts. Now I don't see any death panels there yet.

Isn't Massachusetts one of the states that is bankrupt right now?



Warning about what you perceive to be a disaster does not make someone the cause of it. You're just trying to discredit the messenger and will be blaming the messenger when the disaster they warned about happens.

When someone's reasoning can be proven by math so simple it is taught in grade school, then excuse me unless our entire foundation of mathematics is wrong and 2 + 2 = 5, people like Glenn Beck are actually right and you are wrong. We are talking basic math, basic economics 101, etc. it doesn't take an accountant or a rocket scientist to understand the reasoning as to how they reached the conclusion they have.

source plox?

No. People like you greatly oversimplify matters. Governments do not simply "go bankrupt" like an ordinary individual or company does. At least not governments with their own monatary system. A republican scare tactic is what this kind of hyperbole is. A debt / inflation crisis may eventually occur in this century if we do nothing, but we're not there yet. The immediate crisis is the lack of full employment.