Reciting a creed in a church mental coercion?

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But public schools are used to indoctrinate children into atheism.

This is why I'm for private schools teaching, cause they spend more time actually educating then shoving political ideology and are more accountable to parents than public schools.

Whether or not in order to make your point, I think you miss or misrepresent mine.

Of course, the consensus DOES keep changing - science is not QUITE dead in North America. Long may it change.

I am all for communicating WHAT the consensus is, though I have problems with teaching the consensus.

But off that, said plenty on it.

Looking back at your post, I see I did mistake your reference. I read

"In the sense of weak atheism, I suppose not indoctrinating children with theism would "count" as teaching them atheism, though I'd hardly regard that as brainwashing. In the stronger, more theoretical, sense of teaching children that there is No God, that would be brainwashing."

My background automatically shunted me into SCHOOLING - in my life all moves toward indoctrination or teaching came from school. At home, there were books on the shelves, but no discussion of anything.

I DID feel a dissonance in eg "wait till 14", which was not easy to reconcile with school.

So okay.

Please REpurpose all I said as spontaneous rant on schooling, and uncuouple it from response to Master Pedant.

To whom, now I get it:

UNLIKE my parents, we discussed and still discuss just about everything with Number 1 Son.

UNLIKE my parents, we have - I hope - avoided indoctrination. Where my mother said nothing but vibed all kinds of evaluatiions, we [no virtue, it is our nature] went, here are the data, here is what I think, check it out and let us know what YOU think. Given the number of areas he disagrees with us - without revolting against us - i like to hope we got it right.

Sounds like the way my parents taught me about sex.

Public schools indoctrinate children into atheism ? Admittedly, it's been a long time since I attended public school, while my little daughter is still attending Kindergarten, so it's not like I have much first hand knowledge about what's going on in the public school system. For my benefit, please list some examples of this indoctrination.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Most public schools have policies that are indifferent or neutral to any religion.

Which I consider a Good Thing. I do not want to see tax money collected from atheists and agnostics used to promote any religion.

There is little or nothing taught in public school that is anti- religion which means anti-Christian or anti-Jewish. What you have is benign indifference, the best policy. Any parent who wishes to have their child brainwashed in a particular religion is free to send his child to a private school or to an after-hours religious school or a parochial school.

Actually the best place to teach (or indoctrinate) a child religiously as at home and in private.

ruveyn

Not in Georgia! In fact the only mention of religion I remember is reciting the Pledge Of Allegiance every day, which of course indoctrinates children into theism. It used to be required by state law here, dunno if still true. Kids can sit out of course, if they want to be made fun of, and they still hear it thousands of times. I know of nothing else like that, certainly no indoctrination into atheism around here..