Since liberals "want to destroy the world"...

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except what i quoted can be proven. think about it, as a liberal you are open to new ideas and new thinking all the time, thus increasing your knowledge base and thus intelligence. if you are a conservative, you are stuck in old ways, unwilling to take on new concepts. if you were, you wouldn't be conservative.

and it isnt big or clever to align liberals with nazis just for the hell of it.

It was tough for me to create this topic. I live in the United States, therefore hear people talking about how liberals are destroying America and the world. But since here we have people from various other countries as well, I was trying to be more inclusive.

The material conditions of human life can be improved. Our moral condition is what it has always been. We are the smartest, baddest apes in the Primate House.

The human races has not changed morally or psychologically in over a quarter of a million years and the efforts of liberals are unlikely to improve us in the moral sense. If anything the urge to "better" ones fellows (and thereby control them) is a manifestation of the Darkness Within.

ruveyn

I can agree with your final statement.

As for us being the smartest - that is us making the definitions, no?

The last bonobo I discussed it with thought differently.

Look at the IQ test controversies. And being boss of the horde does not guarantee smarts.

Not all conservatives are ignorant of liberal policy, i find it odd that you assume a conservative is ignorant of your policies because of his disagreement seems kind of cocky. Also his comparison has some substance in this case don't just throw it away.

Bonobos do not talk. And I said the smartest, baddest.

ruveyn

i didn't say anything about policies.

all im saying is that (generally speaking) when you look at a conservative, they are always promoting stone-age values and ideas. that is not a disagreement, that is denial of current facts and knowledge. just look at current stuff in the news and you'll see what i mean. hence the conservative will not take on the new concepts. it doesnt matter if they are ignorant of policy or not, the fact is they deny fact.

Deny fact? What fact? Also the age of an idea isn't really relevant when discussing its merits. You once again assume they are ignorant(willfully or not) of something as an inherent explanation of their disagreement with your ideals(or policies it makes no difference), its prideful behavior which borders on the idiotic.

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That may be logical, but it makes a big assumption about what a liberal is that is not borne out by observation.

IF "liberal" meant what one is meant to think it means [remember the meaning of thde National Socialist Worker's Party?], you would be right.

However, in practice a very large number of people labelled "liberal" are NOT open to new ideas and new thinking - I worked in a majority liberal environment for years. And, as has been pointed out, to be an American conservative today is more likely to require actual thought and decision and effort than unexamined letting the crowd carry you out of the station into Liberal land. I do not say ALL liberals are this, all that - but kneejerks asre less likely to turn you conservative today.

The comparison [NOT alignment] Liberal / Nazi was NOT done to be big or clever - like I care - NOR was it done "for the hell of it" The US Liberals are [my view, my observations, you are not bound by it] a group that considers itself the right-thinking good guys, living in the past when their views were radical challenges to a problematic status quo instead of PC establishment thinking. Every journalist who sneers ar Sarah Palin thinks "Watergate - I'm a hero fighting for the right." Where exactly are Mr Obama's new ideas - as he works to reprise Wilson, FDR and Kennedy with just a touch of Lincoln?

Anyway - for the record - knowledge is not related to intelligence as cause or precursor - or even as result. You can be really dumb and know a lot. You can be really smart and abysmally ignorant.

Your cynicism about the world is only a projection of your own coldness.

This reminds me of the book "The Sea Wolf" by Jack London. At least he wrote that story in what seemed to be a phase of questioning his own cynicism about man and nature.

To quote Ronald Reagan: "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so."

I don't view all liberals as enemies, I just view they need to be shown by presenting facts that they are wrong. There are some liberals that are the enemy but most are just people that are misinformed.

Ruveyn:

"Bonobos do not talk. And I said the smartest, baddest. "

I guess they don't talk to you.

And what is the empirically verifiable criterion for bad?

There is a theme, but I think it's racism disguised by snark rather than satire.

He could also just be making comments he knows aren't PC just for the sake of it and it has nothing to do with racism.

In what instance do you see liberals as "wrong"?