Secret grand jury meeting in Virginia on Wikieaks

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16 Dec 2010, 12:41 am

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16 Dec 2010, 12:46 am

Orwell wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Ron Paul is the only honorable man in Washington.

There are a handful of others that, as far as I can tell at least, seem to be decent, honest human beings. Ron Paul is quite extreme, but at least it seems that he is someone with whom you can have an honest disagreement and know that his views are his own, not those of a corporate sponsor.


There are plenty of things you can do in the "minimizing" or "cutting" categories that would help corporations out a lot. Especially the pharmaceutical, medical, and insurance fields. Which brings me back to the thing that made me question Paul but I can't remember the name of the organization and it's no longer listed on Paul's wiki page.

I also wonder about what his real stance is on net neutrality. That's sounds like a laissez-faire dream: tiered internet at subscription prices. A nightmare almost as horrific as one of those mobile broadband aircards and the plans associated with them.


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16 Dec 2010, 1:39 pm

Orwell wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Ron Paul is the only honorable man in Washington.

There are a handful of others that, as far as I can tell at least, seem to be decent, honest human beings. Ron Paul is quite extreme, but at least it seems that he is someone with whom you can have an honest disagreement and know that his views are his own, not those of a corporate sponsor.
Handful is correct, I can probably count them one hand. The only democrats I trusted like that was my former senator Russ Feingold.

For the Feingold fans out there, there's a decent chance he's back in Washington in 2012. Herb Kohl will may retire and Feingold could get the nomination easily if he wanted it. Kohl is relatively popular in the state for whatever reason tho despite being a completely unremarkable party line senator. He doesn't really have much else in life besides his senate seat and the Milwaukee Bucks so he probably will run again now that I think about it. It would be a tough general since Paul Ryan(golden boy of the GOP) has said he will run if Herb Kohl retires and I expect he'll probably jump in against Kohl regardless if he's beating him in the polls. Tommy Thompson(who is still very popular with in the state)could play with jumping in like he always does and would probably win if he ran. Feingold could run for an even higher office too...



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16 Dec 2010, 3:07 pm

Gotta love Star Chamber.


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16 Dec 2010, 4:56 pm

Hey, when you are THE POWER, as the US govt is, you write the laws. Murdering Assange is legal because the govt does it. In fact, they could shut down the entire press tomorrow, and "kill" the internet, and it would be legal. And that's the game plan. They are collecting data on who is "untrustworthy", ever hear of the Red and Blue Lists?, and are preparing to eliminate those individuals at the right time. The slaughter of tens of millions of people will serve as a warning: cross us in ANY WAY, and you DIE. Absolute power will be theirs. If you do as Stalin did and eliminate ANYBODY who in any way can think for themselves, you secure permanent absolute power. The goal has always been to identify the genes that make one person less sheepish than his fellows, then eliminate, DELETE, those genes from the human race. In the end, you will have a humanity that is utterly, literally, unable to have an independent thought. Except for the elite, of course. That is why they want to eliminate autism, because autistics are harder to control. Anybody who is independent will be wiped out, with only the sheepest of sheep remaining. I would rather kill myself than go to their death camps, the ones where entire ghost towns have been turned into gas chambers and crematoria to do the necessary eliminating. I refuse to surrender, I will die first.



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16 Dec 2010, 5:54 pm

pezar wrote:
Hey, when you are THE POWER, as the US govt is, you write the laws. Murdering Assange is legal because the govt does it. In fact, they could shut down the entire press tomorrow, and "kill" the internet, and it would be legal. And that's the game plan. They are collecting data on who is "untrustworthy", ever hear of the Red and Blue Lists?, and are preparing to eliminate those individuals at the right time. The slaughter of tens of millions of people will serve as a warning: cross us in ANY WAY, and you DIE. Absolute power will be theirs. If you do as Stalin did and eliminate ANYBODY who in any way can think for themselves, you secure permanent absolute power. The goal has always been to identify the genes that make one person less sheepish than his fellows, then eliminate, DELETE, those genes from the human race. In the end, you will have a humanity that is utterly, literally, unable to have an independent thought. Except for the elite, of course. That is why they want to eliminate autism, because autistics are harder to control. Anybody who is independent will be wiped out, with only the sheepest of sheep remaining. I would rather kill myself than go to their death camps, the ones where entire ghost towns have been turned into gas chambers and crematoria to do the necessary eliminating. I refuse to surrender, I will die first.
I agree with what you're saying about government expansion leading to tyranny, but it's just batshit crazy to assume we're being wiped out because we're seen as a threat. We're actually in threat of being aborted because we can't function in society as well as NT's. And it's not necessarily for malicious reasons.

The biggest threats to society are the ones with social power, not the ones with the brains. A charismatic leader is a much bigger threat to the government than someone with AS. How can we possibly get people to get up and fight for our cause when it's hard enough for us to even ask someone out on a date?