Mono-thesists, what is your purpose of life?

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31 Mar 2011, 7:37 am

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"I died as a mineral and became a plant;
I died as a plant and rose to animal;
I died as animal and I was a man.
Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man to soar
With angels blest. Yet even from an angel
I must pass on; All except God must perish.
When I have sacrificed my angel soul,
I shall become what no mind ever conceived."


Do you take that crap seriously?

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31 Mar 2011, 7:51 am

Purpose of life? To love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love my neighbor as myself. Confer Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18.



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31 Mar 2011, 11:58 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Purpose of life? To love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love my neighbor as myself. Confer Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18.


In return for what?

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31 Mar 2011, 12:13 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Purpose of life? To love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love my neighbor as myself. Confer Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18.


In return for what?

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Not having him kick you ass into the Fires

Oh glorious God, Oh all merciful God!! :hail:


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31 Mar 2011, 1:37 pm

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What is the purpose serving your magic man?
What is the purpose of going to heaven?
What is the purpose of living in heaven for an eternity?


Life is an aimless journey, if a person has no purpose. An individual uses whatever it is that makes life more meaningful and gives them purpose and/or hope to move on to the next moment. The magic man, heaven, and eternity makes the journey easier for some, with the thought of the next moment, as a more positive one. I can't thing of a better purpose for believing in these things.

If a person believes that buying a new car or new house will make their life better, and they look forward to this and are motivated to move on to the next day to obtain this goal, it is beneficial in their life, even if they get run over by a bus before they are able to buy the new car or house.

At that point the new car or new house is of no significance to that individual. But, it doesn't change the positive impact that looking forward to those goals had on the individuial when they were alive.

It's like working in a job you don't particularly like, looking forward to retirement; once you get there what's the next big life event? For some it is death; for some it is the magic man, heaven, and eternity. Those that look forward to the magic man, heaven, and eternity, may have a more enjoyable retirement; particularly if they stay socially connected to others bound by similiar beliefs.

In the end when all is said and done; for the referenced individuals, it doesn't matter if the magic man, the house, heaven, the car, or eternity ever materialize; the journey stayed the same.

The magic man, heaven, and eternity doesn't work for everyone; but should it be hard to understand that it is of real benefit to some?



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31 Mar 2011, 3:03 pm

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If a person believes that buying a new car or new house will make their life better, and they look forward to this and are motivated to move on to the next day to obtain this goal, it is beneficial in their life, even if they get run over by a bus before they are able to buy the new car or house.

At that point the new car or new house is of no significance to that individual. But, it doesn't change the positive impact that looking forward to those goals had on the individuial when they were alive.


It's sad how few people realise that fact; that the pursuit of a goal is worth far more than it's obtainment. Damn human condition...


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31 Mar 2011, 5:16 pm

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Purpose of life? To love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love my neighbor as myself. Confer Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18.


In return for what?

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Even if there were no Heaven or Hell, it would still be right and I care to do right.



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31 Mar 2011, 5:20 pm

I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:24 pm

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I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Why else would you serve? Every description of God I've ever heard is of a suspiciously medieval, pernicious bastard. Not the kind of guy I'd worship, yet alone acknowledge.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:25 pm

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I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Why else would you serve? Every description of God I've ever heard is of a suspiciously medieval, pernicious bastard. Not the kind of guy I'd worship, yet alone acknowledge.


I'm a Deist Pagan. I don't serve. I just find the implication intriguing.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:29 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Some of them believe that God has already made up his mind about that and worshipping him makes no difference.

I've always been fascinated by belief systems where there's a semi-conscious acceptance of the idea that God/gods might be cruel, I include Calvinism and most paganism amongst those belief-systems.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:37 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Some of them believe that God has already made up his mind about that and worshipping him makes no difference.

I've always been fascinated by belief systems where there's a semi-conscious acceptance of the idea that God/gods might be cruel, I include Calvinism and most paganism amongst those belief-systems.


Religion and philosophy is quite fascinating. How those 'in the know' and those that are on the outside interact and react is particularly interesting to me.

Personally, I find it difficult to believe a god would give a crap about one planet in the whole of creation.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:46 pm

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puddingmouse wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Some of them believe that God has already made up his mind about that and worshipping him makes no difference.

I've always been fascinated by belief systems where there's a semi-conscious acceptance of the idea that God/gods might be cruel, I include Calvinism and most paganism amongst those belief-systems.


Religion and philosophy is quite fascinating. How those 'in the know' and those that are on the outside interact and react is particularly interesting to me.

Personally, I find it difficult to believe a god would give a crap about one planet in the whole of creation.


I used to find them interesting, until I read their texts. Now I find them dull and annoying, like their respective 1000 page books.
If there is a God, he's either evil, lazy, or non-omnipotent.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:51 pm

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I used to find them interesting, until I read their texts. Now I find them dull and annoying, like their respective 1000 page books.
If there is a God, he's either evil, lazy, or non-omnipotent.


*shrug* I was raised Christian (I don't care to get into a 'are Mormons christian debate...) and found scriptures to be sorely lacking. It was full of misunderstandings, fantasies, and contradictions.

Then, of course, there were the followers of my particular brand of Christianity. On the whole, religion itself doesn't impress me much. It's the human involvement that caught my eye.


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31 Mar 2011, 5:53 pm

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If there is a God, he's either evil, lazy, or non-omnipotent.


I totally agree with this.

I often slip from atheism into dystheism.


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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I find it interesting that people assume all mono-theists serve a god with the intent to be let into heaven.


Some of them believe that God has already made up his mind about that and worshipping him makes no difference.

I've always been fascinated by belief systems where there's a semi-conscious acceptance of the idea that God/gods might be cruel, I include Calvinism and most paganism amongst those belief-systems.


Religion and philosophy is quite fascinating. How those 'in the know' and those that are on the outside interact and react is particularly interesting to me.

Personally, I find it difficult to believe a god would give a crap about one planet in the whole of creation.


Most of the universe is simply empty space, and if there were no stars in space nobody would give a crap about space either.