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JakobVirgil
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02 Apr 2011, 5:23 pm

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In what circumstances would you intervene in the affairs of another country Jacoby? Take Egypt for example. Wouldn't it right for people to show solidarity with that movement? Especially after they have showed solidarity with striking workers in Wisconsin! Or do you support non-intervention in all cases?


Well you can show solidarity with whoever you want but the problem arises once you start interfering militarily or otherwise. So yes, I support non-intervention in pretty much all cases. These almost always open up a can of worms you want no part of just as it did in the 80s in Afghanistan. The so called "freedom fighters" turned into Al Qaeda and the Taliban and turned Afghanistan into a more brutal dictatorship than the Soviets ever would of and we know the rest of the story. There are examples of this throughout the 20th century. Mubarak is a good example of why we shouldn't interfere with the domestic affairs of other countries, the guy was our client dictator and we have them all over the middle east. The reason the Iranians, who are by all measures some of the most modern and liberal of any Muslim country, are the way they are is because of our support of the oppressive dictatorship of the Shah. The best way to lead is by example.


complete agreement - the best foriegn is none.


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02 Apr 2011, 5:26 pm

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Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.



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02 Apr 2011, 5:30 pm

pandabear wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.


I was making what now turns out to be a failed joke.
that the supposed liberal biased fact-checkers that call Beck out don't seem to have a bias against Rand.


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02 Apr 2011, 7:25 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
pandabear wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.


I was making what now turns out to be a failed joke.
that the supposed liberal biased fact-checkers that call Beck out don't seem to have a bias against Rand.


That has more to do with politics, the instant they no longer match views they will start demonizing him again.



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02 Apr 2011, 7:34 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
pandabear wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.


I was making what now turns out to be a failed joke.
that the supposed liberal biased fact-checkers that call Beck out don't seem to have a bias against Rand.


That has more to do with politics, the instant they no longer match views they will start demonizing him again.


they demonized him before?

Liberals like most americans tend to be libertarian
this could be way they let Rand be.
or maybe Rand Paul lies less than Glenn Beck.


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02 Apr 2011, 10:48 pm

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And no, Rand is not named after Ayn Rand. His name is Randal and he went by Randy until like college.



How do you know that he wasn't named "Randal" after Ann Rand, just so his pop could call him "Rand?"

I suppose, on the other hand, that he might have been named in honor of the Rand McNally Atlas, or possibly the Rand Corporation.

Ayn Rand seems more obvious, though.

Why would he suddenly want to be called "Rand" after college? Obviously for the attention, and to hook up with gurlz.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jacoby wrote:

And no, Rand is not named after Ayn Rand. His name is Randal and he went by Randy until like college.



How do you know that he wasn't named "Randal" after Ann Rand, just so his pop could call him "Rand?"

I suppose, on the other hand, that he might have been named in honor of the Rand McNally Atlas, or possibly the Rand Corporation.

Ayn Rand seems more obvious, though.

Why would he suddenly want to be called "Rand" after college? Obviously for the attention, and to hook up with gurlz.

His wife shortened it. Here's him talking about it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-R_OeP6tU[/youtube]



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03 Apr 2011, 12:02 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
pandabear wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.


I was making what now turns out to be a failed joke.
that the supposed liberal biased fact-checkers that call Beck out don't seem to have a bias against Rand.


That has more to do with politics, the instant they no longer match views they will start demonizing him again.


they demonized him before?


Where were you last year? In a coma?!?!?

JakobVirgil wrote:
Liberals like most americans tend to be libertarian


About the only thing liberals are like libertarians on is legalizing drugs.

JakobVirgil wrote:
this could be way they let Rand be.


Note viewer discretion is advised:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bpgnkNN7Q[/youtube]

Would be Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has hit back at a desperate and sustained mainstream media attempt to smear him as a racist extremist following his historic primary victory earlier this week.

Paul appeared on ABC’s Good Morning America today to make it clear that the attacks against him regarding views he expressed on the Civil Rights Act, which we covered in our article yesterday, are “red herrings” and part of an establishment effort to “trash” his campaign.

“I’ve just been trashed up and down and they have been saying things that are untrue. And when they say I’m for repealing the Civil Rights Act, it’s absolutely false. It’s never been my position and something that I basically just think is politics.” Paul said.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-s ... chine.html

Heck right wing groups had a field day when they caught the lamestream media trying to smear Rand Paul.

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or maybe Rand Paul lies less than Glenn Beck.


:roll:

Sorry but most of the dishonesty I've seen comes from liberals, only reason they are supporting Rand Paul is because they want us out of Libya, Rand Paul's reasons are a lot different from the left's reasons. Once the Libya situation is over they will go right back to smearing him.



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03 Apr 2011, 7:30 am

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
pandabear wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Paul's argument against the no fly zone appear to be :

a. It costs money

b. It is not in our "national interest" to do so

Neither of those are left wing arguments against intervention.


Oh, he's just another bleeding heart liberal who feels everyone's pain.


I was making what now turns out to be a failed joke.
that the supposed liberal biased fact-checkers that call Beck out don't seem to have a bias against Rand.


That has more to do with politics, the instant they no longer match views they will start demonizing him again.


they demonized him before?


Where were you last year? In a coma?!?!?

JakobVirgil wrote:
Liberals like most americans tend to be libertarian


About the only thing liberals are like libertarians on is legalizing drugs.

JakobVirgil wrote:
this could be way they let Rand be.


Note viewer discretion is advised:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bpgnkNN7Q[/youtube]

Would be Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has hit back at a desperate and sustained mainstream media attempt to smear him as a racist extremist following his historic primary victory earlier this week.

Paul appeared on ABC’s Good Morning America today to make it clear that the attacks against him regarding views he expressed on the Civil Rights Act, which we covered in our article yesterday, are “red herrings” and part of an establishment effort to “trash” his campaign.

“I’ve just been trashed up and down and they have been saying things that are untrue. And when they say I’m for repealing the Civil Rights Act, it’s absolutely false. It’s never been my position and something that I basically just think is politics.” Paul said.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-s ... chine.html

Heck right wing groups had a field day when they caught the lamestream media trying to smear Rand Paul.

JakobVirgil wrote:
or maybe Rand Paul lies less than Glenn Beck.


:roll:

Sorry but most of the dishonesty I've seen comes from liberals, only reason they are supporting Rand Paul is because they want us out of Libya, Rand Paul's reasons are a lot different from the left's reasons. Once the Libya situation is over they will go right back to smearing him.


oh, I get it, smear means honestly disagree (when a liberal does it).
Yes then Liberals will smear the hell out of him.

you rolled your eyes I win.
it is a valid interpratation Beck could be a bigger liar.


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04 Apr 2011, 9:55 am

I understand that Rand Paul is a bestialist.

(that's just a rumour circulating around; only a few members of the libertarian elite have actually seen the evidence).



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04 Apr 2011, 1:37 pm

pandabear wrote:
I understand that Rand Paul is a bestialist.

(that's just a rumour circulating around; only a few members of the libertarian elite have actually seen the evidence).


ya and Obama did coke and had gay sex in the back of a limo in 1999

just stop posting please



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04 Apr 2011, 1:39 pm

Jacoby wrote:
pandabear wrote:
I understand that Rand Paul is a bestialist.

(that's just a rumour circulating around; only a few members of the libertarian elite have actually seen the evidence).


ya and Obama did coke and had gay sex in the back of a limo in 1999

just stop posting please
It's funny how he's 52 and says the type of s**t I'd hear after walking past an elementary schoolyard.



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04 Apr 2011, 2:20 pm

Obama and Rand, in 1999? Now THAT'S a great rumour!