How to peacefully disband The Illegimate State of Israel

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10 Apr 2011, 1:28 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

Hey, Did you know a lot of Palestinian Arabs are Christian?. The Palestinian Christians were not Muslims who converted to Christianity, They were there before Islam came to Palestine. Palestine is for Native Palestinians, When ether they are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist or any other religion.

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

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10 Apr 2011, 1:29 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

I get the impression that was exactly what she was saying

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10 Apr 2011, 1:31 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

I get the impression that was exactly what she was saying

If you followed the argument, that is not what she is saying. She is saying the Israelis have no claim to the land that was arguably theirs from back in the old Testament...

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10 Apr 2011, 1:33 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

I get the impression that was exactly what she was saying

Laconvivencia is a he.

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10 Apr 2011, 1:35 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

I get the impression that was exactly what she was saying

If you followed the argument, that is not what she is saying. She is saying the Israelis have no claim to the land that was arguably theirs from back in the old Testament...

They have a claim to the land they purchased. I still don't see how it's an enticing proposition to live in that area, though. I mean I understand that some of the areas out there are beautiful but if your intentions are self-preservation, you'd think that Israel wouldn't be the answer considering how much more direct anger and murderous intent results from it.

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10 Apr 2011, 1:50 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Laconvivencia wrote:

Israelis have just as much claim as the Palestinians if you want to go that route.

I get the impression that was exactly what she was saying

Laconvivencia is a he.

Oops. Vigilans made a funny!

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10 Apr 2011, 2:15 pm

Israel should have never happened. But I don't think disbanding is an optimal solution or viable at all.

Right now, I think the best would be to simply stop any expansionism and violation of human rights. Also make Jerusalem a territory controlled by the international community instead of any single nation or religion. Finally, start a process by which territories acquired through force in the recent years are returned to previous owners slowly.

We will also need to stop the Palestinian extremism as well though.

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10 Apr 2011, 2:41 pm

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We will also need to stop the Palestinian extremism as well though.

It's harder to stop extreme politics in impoverished areas.

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10 Apr 2011, 3:25 pm

@ Vexcalibur

The Israelis shouldn't have to give up Jerusalem unless the Muslims turn Mecca over to the Vatican. Until the Muslims do that, they have no business demanding the Israelis give up their only holy city in the world.

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10 Apr 2011, 4:08 pm

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Why the hell would the Muslims turn Mecca over to the Vatican? Are you insane?

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10 Apr 2011, 4:12 pm

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Mecca has some significance to anyone else?

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10 Apr 2011, 4:32 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

After the Disbandment of Israel, Jews can stay in Palestine, as long as they remain Palestinian. I am Jewish myself and i admire Jewish Culture. One of the reasons why i oppose zionism is because that it is destroying Traditional Jewish culture in countries abroad in which Judaism played an important part in the countries history. To me ,The creation of Israel is just like the creation of Pakistan.

In a pig's a** this will happen. One, the Israelis will never agree and if they did the Palestinians would kill them. Your proposal suffers from two main faults:

a. It is stupid and unworkable.
b. It is stupid and unworkable.

this is a struggle to the death.

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10 Apr 2011, 4:36 pm

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this is a struggle to the death.

All over some tiny, inconsequential piece of dirt.

People are willing to die for the stupidest s**t.

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10 Apr 2011, 4:52 pm

skafather84 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

this is a struggle to the death.

All over some tiny, inconsequential piece of dirt.

People are willing to die for the stupidest sh**.

Inconsequential to YOU. But your opinion does not count in this struggle. Only the opinions and beliefs of the combatants count.

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10 Apr 2011, 5:07 pm

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

this is a struggle to the death.

All over some tiny, inconsequential piece of dirt.

People are willing to die for the stupidest sh**.

Inconsequential to YOU. But your opinion does not count in this struggle. Only the opinions and beliefs of the combatants count.

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Inconsequential to anyone. The cultural bonds are within the people and so are the cultural traditions. The dirt doesn't change this.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:02 pm

skafather84 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

this is a struggle to the death.

All over some tiny, inconsequential piece of dirt.

People are willing to die for the stupidest sh**.

A piece of dirt = territory and we are territorial like any other animal. I know, it's real primal.

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