iamnotaparakeet
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18 Apr 2011, 3:46 pm
YippySkippy wrote:
McCain proved himself unfit for office when he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
I mean, seriously. That chick is wacka-do.
I mean, seriously. That chick is wacka-do.
Just for that I'll vote for Palin if she's ever on the ballot!
18 Apr 2011, 3:53 pm
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18 Apr 2011, 4:13 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Regardless of the perceived failings of Bush, he had enough Charisma and influence
No he didn't. Bush was about as charismatic as a cactus.
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More specifically, what is it about melanin, that could have made a difference for an individual to be awarded the nobel peace prize, by an international group?
Are you to suppose that the word "international" is by some means equivalent to the word "unbiased"? The committees that awarded Obama with a Nobel Prize are idiots. They gave one to Al Gore for making environmentalist propaganda and they failed to give one to the actual inventor of the MRI. Obama is just the third down on a list of failures to think properly for this generation of people giving away once meaningful trophies. As per why they might have given Obama a now slightly less meaningful trophy due to melanin, it could be that he was the first non-white president elected. His shoddy hollow promises could have certainly convinced the geniuses of the international preemptive trophy donation committee to preemptively provide him his trophy before doing anything other than being elected, but if so it only shows how many 'geniuses' there really are upon that committee.
I didn't say Bush was one of the most Charismatic presidents in the last 50 years, but he definitely had more than Gore and Kerry. And don't forget, Bush was a male cheerleader at Yale, If he was a cactus the other two were stones.
It appears that world politics and the previous administration, played a role in that decision. The award might be more of a credit to the exit of Bush than the entrance of a democratic president, but, I think the Charisma was a necessary component too. And, I will concede the fact that the US elected the first non-white president may have played some unspoken role in the decision, but not considered as a spoken factor. Chances could be that all three ingredients came together in just the right combination, to get Obama the award.
I found it a little strange, and tried to figure out exactly what he achieved to get the award; I think if the committee could have awarded the prize to more than one person, it could have been those in America, that decided on a new direction for the US. At the time, I think, Obama got the award mostly because he was Obama.
18 Apr 2011, 4:15 pm
iamnotaparakeet
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18 Apr 2011, 4:47 pm
aghogday wrote:
I didn't say Bush was one of the most Charismatic presidents in the last 50 years, but he definitely had more than Gore and Kerry. And don't forget, Bush was a male cheerleader at Yale, If he was a cactus the other two were stones.
Perhaps you may be right, Kerry was quite an idiot:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o[/youtube]
18 Apr 2011, 5:01 pm
psychohist wrote:
aghogday wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
McCain proved himself unfit for office when he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
I mean, seriously. That chick is wacka-do.
I mean, seriously. That chick is wacka-do.
That decision put a whole new light on the Republican decision making process. Seems like I remember reports that McCain was not too comfy with the idea behind closed doors. If McCain could have had Lieberman for a running mate, he might have been happier, but those two were not the kind of speakers that had the skills to get the attention of the American Public and contend with the Charisma of Obama.
Maybe the attention factor was what the Republicans were seeking to gain with Palin. She certainly knows how to get attention, but not always in a positive way.
If it had been up to the Republican party apparatus, they would have avoided Palin and picked someone from the northeast like Romney or Guiliani to balance the ticket. It was McCain that insisted on a female running mate. Of course, being fundamentally sexist, McCain went with someone pretty instead of someone with experience and competence.
Even so, Palin was a way better and more charismatic campaigner than McCain. The main thing holding back the McCain campaign was McCain himself.
I think she might have been picked as the closest female equivalent to replacee Bush that could be found; she was the great hunter and spokesperson for oil in the north, while Bush was the rancher and oilman from the South. Both, true patriachs: "Defeat the Axis of Evil", "Mission Accomplished", "Drill Baby Drill", and "In the Cross Hairs"
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Her appearance didn't hurt anyones feelings.
Seriously, I agree that McCain wasn't a good choice to run; the Republicans just don't seem to have many good choices anymore. If they make the same mistake in a canidate this time; they may get the same result. If they pick Gingrich, I think it will be a serious mistake, along the lines of McCain. And, his name sounds too much like Grinch; I doubt he could steal the election.
If Trump, Huckabee, and Palin, don't run; it better be Romney over Gingrich; or someone entirely different from the Canidates they have now.
18 Apr 2011, 5:15 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
aghogday wrote:
I didn't say Bush was one of the most Charismatic presidents in the last 50 years, but he definitely had more than Gore and Kerry. And don't forget, Bush was a male cheerleader at Yale, If he was a cactus the other two were stones.
Perhaps you may be right, Kerry was quite an idiot:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o[/youtube]
Take away the Charisma and Obama is not much different than Gore. And, they both have Nobel Awards.
18 Apr 2011, 5:24 pm
18 Apr 2011, 5:28 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
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If Trump, Huckabee, and Palin, don't run; it better be Romney over Gingrich; or someone entirely different from the Canidates they have now.
Problem with that argument is that Gingrich actually balanced the budget before
He also 'balanced' a few women who weren't his wife on top of himself
18 Apr 2011, 5:36 pm
Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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If Trump, Huckabee, and Palin, don't run; it better be Romney over Gingrich; or someone entirely different from the Canidates they have now.
Problem with that argument is that Gingrich actually balanced the budget before
He also 'balanced' a few women who weren't his wife on top of himself
Unlike Clinton, he didn't lie about it under oath before a Federal Grand Jury. There have been several Presidents with that particular issue including FDR, so he wouldn't be the first.
18 Apr 2011, 5:38 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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If Trump, Huckabee, and Palin, don't run; it better be Romney over Gingrich; or someone entirely different from the Canidates they have now.
Problem with that argument is that Gingrich actually balanced the budget before
He also 'balanced' a few women who weren't his wife on top of himself
Unlike Clinton, he didn't lie about it under oath before a Federal Grand Jury. There have been several Presidents with that particular issue including FDR, so he wouldn't be the first.
LOL Clinton again, always bringing that up when the discussion of Gingrich's unfaithfulness comes up. No, he did it all for his country. The stress of patriotism is just too much to keep it in his pants
18 Apr 2011, 5:44 pm
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