Fox New analyst Thinks that Lying is a Good Strategy

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04 Jul 2011, 4:45 am

this (clicky) description of the Faux News playbook sounds true to form :idea:
IOW [for those who refuse to click] it is a description of 14 propaganda technique they use to brainwash americans who have bones to pick with their fellow americans.



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04 Jul 2011, 7:44 am

auntblabby wrote:
this (clicky) description of the Faux News playbook sounds true to form :idea:
IOW [for those who refuse to click] it is a description of 14 propaganda technique they use to brainwash americans who have bones to pick with their fellow americans.


Good article. Sadly, I expect that people's blind devotion to Fox News will oblige them to ignore it.


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04 Jul 2011, 2:24 pm

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Bernie Goldberg a Fox "news analyst" and a member of my tribe.
Recommends calling liberals racists when he admit that he knows it is not true.
The reason cited "because they think they are morally superior".
Well Bernie there may be some reasons for that :lol:
<<Link to "story" on fox "news"
so gear up fellas Inu is gunna start calling you racist. :lol:


Bernie Goldberg is just advancing your tribe's interests by helping render conservatism even more toothless than it already is. And - by playing along with this red-team/blue-team charade - so are you (whether intentionally or not).

The word racism is a political tool used to pathologise a natural human instinct, namley kin loyalty. It is a tool for aiding the dispossession of any dominant or once dominant ethnic or racial group in any particular area.

If mainstream conservatism were any real alternative to liberalism, its spokespeople would make this simple point. But they don't. Mainstream conservatism is a business, and a con: it attracts the support of huge numbers of people who are not degenerate enough to be liberals, and rewards that support by directing people down blind alleys ("socialism", "values", "The Fed" etc).

Of course, most liberals are so clueless and degenerate they cannot distinguish between anybody to the "right" of them.



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04 Jul 2011, 2:32 pm

codarac wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Bernie Goldberg a Fox "news analyst" and a member of my tribe.
Recommends calling liberals racists when he admit that he knows it is not true.
The reason cited "because they think they are morally superior".
Well Bernie there may be some reasons for that :lol:
<<Link to "story" on fox "news"
so gear up fellas Inu is gunna start calling you racist. :lol:


Bernie Goldberg is just advancing your tribe's interests by helping render conservatism even more toothless than it already is. And - by playing along with this red-team/blue-team charade - so are you (whether intentionally or not).

The word racism is a political tool used to pathologise a natural human instinct, namley kin loyalty. It is a tool for aiding the dispossession of any dominant or once dominant ethnic or racial group in any particular area.

If mainstream conservatism were any real alternative to liberalism, its spokespeople would make this simple point. But they don't. Mainstream conservatism is a business, and a con: it attracts the support of huge numbers of people who are not degenerate enough to be liberals, and rewards that support by directing people down blind alleys ("socialism", "values", "The Fed" etc).

Of course, most liberals are so clueless and degenerate they cannot distinguish between anybody to the "right" of them.


JacobVirgil's tribe? Darest I perceive a bit of Antisemitism?

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04 Jul 2011, 2:54 pm

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JacobVirgil's tribe? Darest I perceive a bit of Antisemitism?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lol, what a joke. Jakob referred to his "tribe" in his opening post (the post I quoted).
I guess it's "antisemitism" for a goy to use words and phrases a jew uses himself.



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04 Jul 2011, 3:07 pm

codarac wrote:
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JacobVirgil's tribe? Darest I perceive a bit of Antisemitism?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lol, what a joke. Jakob referred to his "tribe" in his opening post (the post I quoted).
I guess it's "antisemitism" for a goy to use words and phrases a jew uses himself.


I can refer to other German Lutherans as my Volk, though coming from someone else, with perhaps a certain Anti-German sentiment, it sounds bigoted.
JacobVirgil can refer to his "tribe" all he wants, because it's a reference to his own people.
I detected something a bit confrontational in your use of the term.

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05 Jul 2011, 12:23 am

codarac wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Bernie Goldberg a Fox "news analyst" and a member of my tribe.
Recommends calling liberals racists when he admit that he knows it is not true.
The reason cited "because they think they are morally superior".
Well Bernie there may be some reasons for that :lol:
<<Link to "story" on fox "news"
so gear up fellas Inu is gunna start calling you racist. :lol:


Bernie Goldberg is just advancing your tribe's interests by helping render conservatism even more toothless than it already is. And - by playing along with this red-team/blue-team charade - so are you (whether intentionally or not).

The word racism is a political tool used to pathologise a natural human instinct, namley kin loyalty. It is a tool for aiding the dispossession of any dominant or once dominant ethnic or racial group in any particular area.

If mainstream conservatism were any real alternative to liberalism, its spokespeople would make this simple point. But they don't. Mainstream conservatism is a business, and a con: it attracts the support of huge numbers of people who are not degenerate enough to be liberals, and rewards that support by directing people down blind alleys ("socialism", "values", "The Fed" etc).

Of course, most liberals are so clueless and degenerate they cannot distinguish between anybody to the "right" of them.


what exactly is my tribes interest?


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05 Jul 2011, 8:03 pm

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I am a regular watcher of The Daily Show, and I can say with all truth and honesty that Jon Stewart was not ridiculing Hermann Cain for being black, but for being a cretin. He imitated Cain's voice solely for the sake of mimicry, not to ridicule Cain's race.
The fact of the matter is, everyone knows Jon Stewart is not a racist. Rather, he slams people for their stupidity or heartlessness. Goldberg and his friends at Fox are just vindictively taking tit-for-tat jabs at him for his politics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yet people call Rush Limbaugh a racist for exoriating Barack Obama, Bernie Goldberg was pointing out the double standard, he was not suggesting Jon Stewart was actually a racist.


No, he actually called Stewart a racist. Stewart played the clip on his show.
As for right wingers imitating Obama; well, there's a huge difference between Stewart making fun of Hermann Cain for his loony ideas, and for right wingers ridiculing the president for his blackness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I honestly don't care what Stewart said, Bernie said that there is a double standard and hypocracy.



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05 Jul 2011, 11:26 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I am a regular watcher of The Daily Show, and I can say with all truth and honesty that Jon Stewart was not ridiculing Hermann Cain for being black, but for being a cretin. He imitated Cain's voice solely for the sake of mimicry, not to ridicule Cain's race.
The fact of the matter is, everyone knows Jon Stewart is not a racist. Rather, he slams people for their stupidity or heartlessness. Goldberg and his friends at Fox are just vindictively taking tit-for-tat jabs at him for his politics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yet people call Rush Limbaugh a racist for exoriating Barack Obama, Bernie Goldberg was pointing out the double standard, he was not suggesting Jon Stewart was actually a racist.


No, he actually called Stewart a racist. Stewart played the clip on his show.
As for right wingers imitating Obama; well, there's a huge difference between Stewart making fun of Hermann Cain for his loony ideas, and for right wingers ridiculing the president for his blackness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I honestly don't care what Stewart said, Bernie said that there is a double standard and hypocracy.

Well, "Bernie" could have said that without badmouthing Stewart.

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06 Jul 2011, 4:03 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

what exactly is my tribes interest?


In terms of nature, that "interest" is the same as any other tribe's (whether its members are conscious of it or not): to survive and maintain and/or extend its power. It's only the way jews have historically gone about this that sets them somewhat apart from most other tribes. Most tribes throughout history have acquired (or conquered) land in order to live off it, but jews have survived for centuries as minorities (often working in "middleman" professions) among other peoples; the challenge then for any tribe who continue to live this way is how to maintain it without disappearing through assimilation and without the peoples they live among giving them the boot.



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06 Jul 2011, 4:10 pm

codarac wrote:
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what exactly is my tribes interest?


In terms of nature, that "interest" is the same as any other tribe's (whether its members are conscious of it or not): to survive and maintain and/or extend its power. It's only the way jews have historically gone about this that sets them somewhat apart from most other tribes. Most tribes throughout history have acquired (or conquered) land in order to live off it, but jews have survived for centuries as minorities (often working in "middleman" professions) among other peoples; the challenge then for any tribe who continue to live this way is how to maintain it without disappearing through assimilation and without the peoples they live among giving them the boot.


I agree with survival but not with power as a means to it. Its better to not rock the boat and to be a "model" minority.


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06 Jul 2011, 7:29 pm

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I honestly don't care what Stewart said, Bernie said that there is a double standard and hypocracy.


Does Bernie know how to spell and to use proper English sentence structure?



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06 Jul 2011, 7:48 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

I honestly don't care what Stewart said, Bernie said that there is a double standard and hypocracy.


Does Bernie know how to spell and to use proper English sentence structure?


Hypocracy means rule of the less?


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06 Jul 2011, 8:09 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:

I honestly don't care what Stewart said, Bernie said that there is a double standard and hypocracy.


Does Bernie know how to spell and to use proper English sentence structure?


Hypocracy means rule of the less?


I suppose that works, as that will show those evil elitists!

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08 Jul 2011, 8:52 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDk-jPwRTo[/youtube]



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08 Jul 2011, 3:20 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDk-jPwRTo[/youtube]


Considering that so many people on the right seem to believe what Beck was saying in that clip at the beginning, you really have to wonder if they ever stop and ask themselves: "s**t, I'm really out of my mind!"

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