Massacres in Syria.
All those movements you mentioned are leftist.
You can blame Islam when it's about an Islamic terrorist attack, the conflict here is of a total different nature
"oh the Americans killed more than 100,000 civilans in Hiroshima, it must be the Christianity."
Islamofascism is Islamofascism. The imams Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden both represent the religion of peace. There's really no point to distinguishing between various internal factions: either the Cross or the sword (nuke!). Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News say so.
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All those movements you mentioned are leftist.
You can blame Islam when it's about an Islamic terrorist attack, the conflict here is of a total different nature
"oh the Americans killed more than 100,000 civilans in Hiroshima, it must be the Christianity."
Islamofascism is Islamofascism. The imams Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden both represent the religion of peace. There's really no point to distinguishing between various internal factions: either the Cross or the sword (nuke!). Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News say so.
I'm sorry, but as an Aspie, I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
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Thats like blaming Hiroshima, and Aushwitz, on Christ.
The victims are protesters who happened to be muslim rising up in the name of secular politics.
He's a secular totalitarian dictator crushing his own people to stay in power in the name of secular politics.
Both perp and victim happened to muslim.
There is no violence against infidels and it is not being perpetrated in the name of any faith.
The dying is about secular politics.
If you want to blame a creed for this then blame secularism, not any religion.
When Al-Qaeda owns the middle east with Iran as it's leader, and the nukes Iran is building are pointed toward the free world, we'll see who was right. There's a reason Tunisia was invaded so early during this "Arab Spring", the country is home to a world class scientific lab unlike anything in the entire Arab world. Hmm, yeah it's political alright.
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Thats like blaming Hiroshima, and Aushwitz, on Christ.
The victims are protesters who happened to be muslim rising up in the name of secular politics.
He's a secular totalitarian dictator crushing his own people to stay in power in the name of secular politics.
Both perp and victim happened to muslim.
There is no violence against infidels and it is not being perpetrated in the name of any faith.
The dying is about secular politics.
If you want to blame a creed for this then blame secularism, not any religion.
When Al-Qaeda owns the middle east with Iran as it's leader, and the nukes Iran is building are pointed toward the free world, we'll see who was right. There's a reason Tunisia was invaded so early during this "Arab Spring", the country is home to a world class scientific lab unlike anything in the entire Arab world. Hmm, yeah it's political alright.
A-Qaeda is a Sunni fundamentalist organization, who hate Shiites, which most Iranians are, with every fiber of their being. The idea that Iran would ally themselves with their hated enemies is just right wing, Islamaphobic nonsense that can be easily refuted by anyone with a working knowledge of the region's culture(s) and history.
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It's all over Google's search engine. There's something Afoot in the Arab world...
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig& ... 35l0.4.3l7
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It's all over Google's search engine. There's something Afoot in the Arab world...
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig& ... 35l0.4.3l7
I admit I only read the story about the Treasury Department's report, and to be sure, it was interesting and chilling. But even the article admits that Al-Qaeda agents in Iran are held under house arrest, and that the organization still commits violence against Shiites. In the end, the Treasury Department felt that any kind of interaction is limited. I personally would be surprised if this lasts. After all, it was Iran along with the Northern Alliance that had fought Bin Laden's hosts the Taliban.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
It's all over Google's search engine. There's something Afoot in the Arab world...
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig& ... 35l0.4.3l7
I admit I only read the story about the Treasury Department's report, and to be sure, it was interesting and chilling. But even the article admits that Al-Qaeda agents in Iran are held under house arrest, and that the organization still commits violence against Shiites. In the end, the Treasury Department felt that any kind of interaction is limited. I personally would be surprised if this lasts. After all, it was Iran along with the Northern Alliance that had fought Bin Laden's hosts the Taliban.
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I actually hope you are right. Because if you aren't it's going to be a game changer in the middle east.
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It's all over Google's search engine. There's something Afoot in the Arab world...
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig& ... 35l0.4.3l7
I admit I only read the story about the Treasury Department's report, and to be sure, it was interesting and chilling. But even the article admits that Al-Qaeda agents in Iran are held under house arrest, and that the organization still commits violence against Shiites. In the end, the Treasury Department felt that any kind of interaction is limited. I personally would be surprised if this lasts. After all, it was Iran along with the Northern Alliance that had fought Bin Laden's hosts the Taliban.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I actually hope you are right. Because if you aren't it's going to be a game changer in the middle east.
Regardless, the Middle East will always for the foreseeable future be an unstable region, and will affect the whole world as we are hooked on oil.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Thats like blaming Hiroshima, and Aushwitz, on Christ.
The victims are protesters who happened to be muslim rising up in the name of secular politics.
He's a secular totalitarian dictator crushing his own people to stay in power in the name of secular politics.
Both perp and victim happened to muslim.
There is no violence against infidels and it is not being perpetrated in the name of any faith.
The dying is about secular politics.
If you want to blame a creed for this then blame secularism, not any religion.
When Al-Qaeda owns the middle east with Iran as it's leader, and the nukes Iran is building are pointed toward the free world, we'll see who was right. There's a reason Tunisia was invaded so early during this "Arab Spring", the country is home to a world class scientific lab unlike anything in the entire Arab world. Hmm, yeah it's political alright.
Your post is still nonsense.
If your hysterical vision of the future were to come true it would just prove my point!
For Islmaism to triumph in the mideast it would have to topple its main enemies which are secular dictators like Hassad and Saddam Hussien ( Al Queda had no presence in Iraq until after we deoposed the latter). you're blaming Islamism for the crimes of an ENEMY of Islamism! Your post is the equivalent of saying that "Hitler proves how violent Judaism is because HItler was a dirty Jew".It makes no sense.
Hassad is the succesor to his daddy who ruled Syria for decades before the rise of either the Ayatollah or Al Queda or any other form of Islamism came into vogue.
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Thats like blaming Hiroshima, and Aushwitz, on Christ.
The victims are protesters who happened to be muslim rising up in the name of secular politics.
He's a secular totalitarian dictator crushing his own people to stay in power in the name of secular politics.
Both perp and victim happened to muslim.
There is no violence against infidels and it is not being perpetrated in the name of any faith.
The dying is about secular politics.
If you want to blame a creed for this then blame secularism, not any religion.
When Al-Qaeda owns the middle east with Iran as it's leader, and the nukes Iran is building are pointed toward the free world, we'll see who was right. There's a reason Tunisia was invaded so early during this "Arab Spring", the country is home to a world class scientific lab unlike anything in the entire Arab world. Hmm, yeah it's political alright.
Your post is still nonsense.
If your hysterical vision of the future were to come true it would just prove my point!
For Islmaism to triumph in the mideast it would have to topple its main enemies which are secular dictators like Hassad and Saddam Hussien ( Al Queda had no presence in Iraq until after we deoposed the latter). you're blaming Islamism for the crimes of an ENEMY of Islamism! Your post is the equivalent of saying that "Hitler proves how violent Judaism is because HItler was a dirty Jew".It makes no sense.
Hassad is the succesor to his daddy who ruled Syria for decades before the rise of either the Ayatollah or Al Queda or any other form of Islamism came into vogue.
Hmm I would partly agree with this but not entirely, Assad and Saddam were only enemies of local Islamism, let me explain further.
Assad, Qathafi, Saddam ...those secular dictators with their 'secular' ruling parties were always rival of all parties inside their countries, including Islamic parties, so those didn't hate the local Islamic parties because they were 'secular' and anti-Islamism, they hated them because they would hate and try to eliminate any political rival that can endanger their monopoly of ruling. That's how those dictator parties ruled all these years, by suppressing, destroying and eliminating any potential alternative ideology, whether it's Islamic or secular.
Outside their own borders, they followed a totally different policy: making an alliance with anyone (Islamic, socialist, Christian parties) who would show allegiance to them and hostility to their enemy countries.
This can be shown clearly with Assad's policy (the father and the son) toward Lebanon. The SSNP for instance (Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party), a Canaanite-Fascist party with a strong left-wing social ideology and far-right nationalism ideology , has been always suppressed and was piratically wiped out as a political force in Syria by Assad. Ironically, the Lebanese branch of SSNP is literally a loyal dog to the Syrian Ba'ath. Same for the Communist party in Lebanon, Communists in Syria had been massacred by Assad the father.
Same pattern regarding the Islamic parties, while the Ba'ath (which it means in arabic "the Renaissance") is the fiercest enemy of the Islamist parties inside Syria such as like the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists, this same "anti-Islamism" and "Progressive" regime was always a benevolent parent of ultra-Islamist terrorist groups and parties outside of Syria: Hezbollah (Shiite Islamistes), Fath el Islam (Sunni Palestinian Islamists, affiliated to al Qaeda), Jund el Cham, Islamic Labor Front (pro-Bin Ladenists) , Al-Ahbash (Flat-earth Muslim believers) in Lebanon. The Islamic Action front and other Islamist movements in Jordan, Hamas in the Palestinian territories, and many Sunni Islamist groups in Iraq.
So those Westerners who believe that the best way to weaken Islamism in the Middle-east by keeping those so-called secular dictatorships are f**** wrong. Those regimes were always the main feeders and fuelers of Islamism in the region since they see it as a very useful regional tactical tool.
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Of course it's mostly rooted in reaction to the new president and a rejection of any cause he seems to support.
On top of that, I can't but feel that there's a racist element in opposing the Arab Spring. I recall seeing a clip of some cretin on Fox who talked about our genetic desire for democracy when contrasting the west with the middle east. And clearly, the Arabs are doubtlessly viewed among them, rather than us.
Then there's the out and out religious and cultural prejudice, that Muslims can't effectively practice democracy. Another idiot on Fox talked about how Muslims in Egypt and Libya should have "liberty without democracy," because they were so unfit to govern themselves.
For all the right's talk of democracy, it's funny how they scramble away from it when it seems to be happening. I have to wonder, what do they have in store for us Americans who don't exactly fit their criteria of who's worthy of free government.
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Of course it's mostly rooted in reaction to the new president and a rejection of any cause he seems to support.
On top of that, I can't but feel that there's a racist element in opposing the Arab Spring. I recall seeing a clip of some cretin on Fox who talked about our genetic desire for democracy when contrasting the west with the middle east. And clearly, the Arabs are doubtlessly viewed among them, rather than us.
Then there's the out and out religious and cultural prejudice, that Muslims can't effectively practice democracy. Another idiot on Fox talked about how Muslims in Egypt and Libya should have "liberty without democracy," because they were so unfit to govern themselves.
For all the right's talk of democracy, it's funny how they scramble away from it when it seems to be happening. I have to wonder, what do they have in store for us Americans who don't exactly fit their criteria of who's worthy of free government.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The same excuse was used to justify the European colonialism and mandate policies.
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Syrian opposition decides to take up arms against Assad regime
About time!! !
The peaceful demos wouldn't do it, they would only cause more death and rape of civilians and a final defeat. Like in Libya, only an armed struggle can put him down.
The only good Ba'ath is a Ba'ath with a bullet in his butt.
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