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13 Mar 2012, 10:18 pm

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Is there anything we're allowed to burn on here? I'm feeling in a destructive mood all of a sudden. ;)


Some nag champa would be nice.


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13 Mar 2012, 10:19 pm

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I think with my boyfriend being Jewish, he understandably has a low tolerance for anything on the spectrum of book burning/building burning/desecration. It's all the same to him.


Fair enough. Is there nothing he would like to burn though? I burnt Gordon Brown one year.



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13 Mar 2012, 10:19 pm

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I think with my boyfriend being Jewish, he understandably has a low tolerance for anything on the spectrum of book burning/building burning/desecration. It's all the same to him.


It's understandable that he feels that way, but he cannot expect anyone else to agree with him. Morally, it's wrong to him. Nothing wrong with that. We all draw our moral base from our own experiences and personal view of the world.


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13 Mar 2012, 10:20 pm

Burning the Koran? Nah...waste of paper. I say read it instead and expose Islam for the hateful religion it is.

I know that might sound harsh, of course, and that's not intended as an attack on Muslims who do love peace and co-existence. But I really did come across a Koran in a bookstore while accompanied with a good friend who takes particularly liberal views in contrast to my more conservative views. I flipped to three random pages, all with at least one reference to killing the unbelievers. My liberal friend was shocked since those three passages contradicted everything she'd ever been told about Islam. I have a small admiration for Muslims who can admit that Mohammed was wrong about certain things and dare to live as what the Koran refers to as "hypocrites."



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13 Mar 2012, 10:20 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
Some nag champa would be nice.


You can have cheese on toast like everyone else and like it. ;)



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13 Mar 2012, 10:20 pm

Tequila wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
I think with my boyfriend being Jewish, he understandably has a low tolerance for anything on the spectrum of book burning/building burning/desecration. It's all the same to him.


Fair enough. Is there nothing he would like to burn though? I burnt Gordon Brown one year.


Piers Morgan.

He also said he'd burn Heat magazine in the hope that it would be true to its title.


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13 Mar 2012, 10:24 pm

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14 Mar 2012, 12:19 am

It is a pointless exercise. Unless you burn all copies of it. Immoral? I think it is immoral to give death threats for doing that.

What is really needed is to make a satirical version of the Qu'ran. Rather than a pointless symbolic exercise you get to actually argument your disagreement against the Qu'ran. Yet you also produce creative work and present your argument in an edible manner as well. And since you are just satirizing a book, the fundies' crazy reaction will look even more ridiculous and less justified than if you burned the Qu'ran.


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14 Mar 2012, 12:42 am

As offensive as it would be to Muslims, obviously, there are no laws (at least in the U.S.) against it, and it would constitute free speech per our Constitution.

If this is about the recent Quran burnings in Afghanistan, that was accidental. On the other hand, if this is about pulling a Terry Jones, I would not partake in such an action, even though I strongly condemn the actions of Islamic extremists. But be that as it may, it's still free speech.

Of course, I think wishing death on them is morally wrong. All I want is for them to stop blowing themselves up in crowded areas, and to treat women better.


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14 Mar 2012, 12:42 am

It's wrong on some level to burn any book IMO. Books are VERY important in society. But, it is no more protected than any other book.


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14 Mar 2012, 12:45 am

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14 Mar 2012, 1:33 am

I'm afraid you're underestimating the emotional connection here. This is bullying on the very worst level.



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14 Mar 2012, 3:47 am

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I think your partners reasoning over complicates the core issue. Doing something with the sole intention to offend others should be considered morally wrong IMHO


I don't think it is morally wrong to deliberately try to offend others, *shrugs*. Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and do it.

Maybe I'm just not empathetic enough about this stuff.


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14 Mar 2012, 3:49 am

scubasteve wrote:
I'm afraid you're underestimating the emotional connection here. This is bullying on the very worst level.


I dunno, chucking stones at people and spitting on them is worse, I think.


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14 Mar 2012, 4:10 am

If they're offended they know where the airport is.

muslims PLEAD for tolerance from everybody else but show NONE themselves.

of course some left wing, PC loonies my disagree with me.



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14 Mar 2012, 4:28 am

piroflip wrote:
If they're offended they know where the airport is.

muslims PLEAD for tolerance from everybody else but show NONE themselves.

of course some left wing, PC loonies my disagree with me.


I am not sure I quite understand the first line of your post, do you reference "the airport" to mean they should fly to another place away from where people are burning books? Hijacking planes? I'm not sure what you meant, I'd like to know though.