Florida, where murder is legal

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It's punishment for the UK. It would be nice to give our prisoners the option of being shipped over there.

Is that even a punishment?

I hope that Zimmerman is himself murdered in a revenge killing by a black vigilante. I know that if I were one of Trayvon's family members I'd do it in a heartbeat. If the law won't stop a killer, then it's time to step beyond the law.

I hope that Zimmerman is himself murdered in a revenge killing by a black vigilante.

Tresspassers should be shot. Or deported to the UK.

Florida has had legal murder since 2005. We just had a thread about this.

The "justifiable homicide" rate has tripled and there have been a number of dodgy high profile cases. Several where the original legislators came out to say that this wasnt the intent of the law. The fact is that it's the loosest version of a "stand your ground" law in the nation.

The current governor is setting up a panel to review the law. Just announced it a few days ago.

I hope that Zimmerman is himself murdered in a revenge killing by a black vigilante. I know that if I were one of Trayvon's family members I'd do it in a heartbeat. If the law won't stop a killer, then it's time to step beyond the law.

By definition, murder can't be legal. Murder is illegal homicide. All places have situations in which it is legal to commit homicide. I guess Florida just added new ones and you don't agree with the change, but some context is needed.

http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_klingaman/2012/02/28/veto_the_minnesota_shoot_first_law

"He was black and obviously a threat"
"I felt Jehova witnesses were a threat to my tranquility"
"He is a democrat, makes me feel threatened".
"I felt threatened by her, that's why I killed her just after we had sex".

Hi Raptor,

I'm not against private gun ownership. I find some of the restrictions on gun ownership about as absurd as Texas trying to limit freedom of speech to the daytime, and with a maximum of 30 minutes of speech in any 24-hour period.

What I find very questionable is the "extraordinary protection" of immunity from prosecution & liability broadly included in many versions of "make my day" laws that extent well beyond the limited "Castle Doctrine", which itself is often extended much too much.

The case of "People v. Guenther, 740 P. 2d 971 - Colo: Supreme Court 1987" includes a "wisdom alert":

"There is a constitutionally significant difference in kind between requiring a defendant, on the one hand, to bear the burden of proving a claim of pretrial entitlement to immunity from prosecution and, on the other, to carry the burden of proof at trial on an affirmative defense to criminal charges. Section 18-1-704.5(3) creates a benefit to a defendant far greater than an affirmative defense. If the statute is found to apply to the facts of the case, it will completely prohibit any further prosecution of charges for which, but for the statute, the defendant would otherwise be required to stand trial. Although the wisdom of such legislation is not for us to decide, it cannot be disputed that the immunity created by section 18-1-704.5(3) is an extraordinary protection which, so far as we know, has no analogue in Colorado statutory or decisional law."

Part/Section IV, B: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... i=scholarr

And, with large summed liability possibilities also often neutralized under "make my day" laws, the "extraordinary protection" tends to grant financial protection insurance as an incentive to manipulating & staging scenarios with even true accidents as active defenses instead of just accidents.

As with swimming pools, I wonder if the dangers of guns often outweigh the benefits of having them, but as for collecting guns as works of art, I dislike more artworks of Thomas Kinkade to a greater degree, whether if lead containing paints are used or not.

The "extraordinary protections", to extraordinary levels of stupidity, of "make my day" laws applying to all weapons, especially tend to make the stupidities taint the very legal right to bear arms, at least in the often ultimately controlling popular public perceptions.

Tadzio

just listened to a radio program in which several 911 tapes are played. in one, someone can be heard crying desperately for help before a shot is fired; despite Zimmerman's claims, the voice sounds distinctly like a teenage boy.
It's enough to keep me from sleepingf for a while. The more I hear, the more Zimmerman seems not only guilty but like a nutjob who is a clear and present danger to other people.

Do you happen to know where one can find these recordings?

By your country's laws he's allowed to be a seemingly racist vigilante who can carry a
concealed weapon and shoot (and kill) someone who is trespassing on his property or neighbourhood.
He's living out his American Dream. This is what happens when Americans hide behind a document that is
over two centuries old, still clinging to the absurdities of parts of it that contain little to dangerous
relevance in today's society. The price that lad has unfortunately paid for living in the land of the free and
the home of the gun wielder.