Feminist preoccupation with power

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I'll give it a shot: Imagine you were born as a woman. Wouldn't you want to have the same legal rights and socio-economic opportunities that you currently enjoy? Or would you rather be a second class citizen?

The same argument can be made for different classes, "races", sexual orientations, neurodiverse states (such as autism), and any other trait imaginable.

When I wrote my novel about a female Doctor transforming her male patient into a robotic cyborg I included dialogues between the male chauvinist patient and the feminist doctor. The result was an extremely insightful work that changed my life.

The left has authoritarian members as well. Think Stalin.

If you say that your own novel is extremely insightful and life-changing, who am I to disagree? It's always nice to meet someone who doesn't suffer from a lack of self-worth

I am thinking he is referring to the fanatics, like the ones who think men should not have power at all or believe that the perfect world is the round up 98% of all the men around the world put them in death camps and spare the remaining 2% confining them and only using them to harvest the semen for conception to save the human race from extinction. Once their usefulness is up execute them and also enforce a one child policy only difference it is the male child to be aborted or discarded to keep the famle population high and in power. Any male offspring spared shall be raised and taught to think as being subhuman and below that of women.

"Those ret*d feminists think I am a misogynist".

i always look forward to your summaries. they invariably make me laugh.

I have an argument that supports feminism. Without women men would cease to exist because of the other 23 chromosomes. True logic trumps all. I am a man saying this

'Women who don't agree with my untested hypothesis about hormonal effects are being unscientific and knee-jerk radicals, even if they happen to have more training in biology and physiology than I do.'

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I hardly think

"Catherine MacKinnon overstates her case in her book 'Harassment' and here's why..."
"Lack of abortion access is far from the biggest issue affecting South American women..."
"Marxist Feminism is incredibly-short sighted because of the effects of..."
"The groups working to bring about an end to honor killing ought to direct more of their efforts toward..."

would elicit hostility from anyone.

But then, those are genuine invitations for discussion, naming specific feminist goals and ideas, and making a case for opposing them.
I've yet to see such discussions take place in any thread with "feminism" or "feminist" in its title.

What does happen is indicting FEMINISM, period, unqualified, which, like it or not, IS misogyny by definition,
in the same way that attacking RACIAL EQUALITY ADVOCACY is prima facie a RACIST move.

The near-constant ducking into a thread to make one-line references to phantom "extremists" within the movement,
and subsequent refusal to elaborate on who, exactly, quite frankly strikes more as bored attempts at provocation as opposed to interest in discourse.

I want to know if this post is serious.


I really, really do.

I had a strange dream of being a warrior in shining armor and almost being knighted by a woman holding a sword . The entrancement was overwhelming but the Prince of Peace broke the spell and I woke up.

Peyote does that to people.

Attacking racial equality advocacy is not necessarily a racist thing. It might be, if done with racist motives, but it could also easily be an attack on actions taken by racial equality advocates which are counterproductive. Some of the things done and said by people who are racial equality advocates are quite stupid, and opposing them on it is a good thing, even though their goal is a noble one.

In the same way, attacks on feminism are not automatically misogyny. Some of them might be motivated by it, but certainly not all.

Certainly phrasing things as 'feminism' (when a more accurate specification of a subset of feminism might be made) is not likely to be the best way to say things, but saying things poorly is not the same as sexism or racism at all.

What singular objection can be made to feminism, the movement, as opposed to feminism, the philosophy,
when the former involves millions of individuals, thousands of groups, millions of initiatives, and hundreds of literary works?
It becomes definitional when discussing FEMINISM, full stop.

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Yes I accidentally ingested some hallucinogenic mold.