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02 Apr 2012, 3:05 pm

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I'm an agnostic, short of dieing, nobody can tell what to expect after life ends. Nobody knows where the universe originated, or why 10,000 years ago, the parietal, temporal, and occipital lobes of homo sapiens evolved at a faster pace than other species at any given time.

Why did you convert to Islam? How much emphasis is placed on women covering their hair? Do they discuss sharia law much at your mosque? How does your faith influence your daily life?


The simple reason why i converted was that it made sense to me. All of it does and if i find something that doesn't seem to make sense it always does in the end.

I am actually not part of a mosque at the moment because i can't get a hold of anyone at my local islamic center, but it is just as good to practice by yourself.

I have heard of sharia law of course but i don't know everything that it includes but as long as they give proof and it makes sense i don't have a problem with it.

For a women to cover her hair it shows modesty, it shows she is more concerned about what God tells her to do than what others think of her. But it is not just her hair she covers it is all of her body except her face and hands.Everything else is covered except in front of women or close male relatives. It is so she is more protected, and people don't judge by her body only her mind.

I don't wear one yet but i plan on doing it soon :). It is my belief that covering is something you have to do but it should not be forced on a women, she should do it when she is ready and God will judge what her intentions were.



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02 Apr 2012, 3:05 pm

Funny it's only women who have to mummify themselves to be modest.


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02 Apr 2012, 3:11 pm

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Funny it's only women who have to mummify themselves to be modest.


Now I wanted to post a picture of a man in a speedo, but I coudln't bring myself to google search that


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02 Apr 2012, 3:13 pm

Not sure I'm wandering in between different religions checking them out.

Buddhism does have interesting qualities to it. It seems more Human centered rather then concerning itself with some kind of worship.

It could be I'm Humanist and see value in Buddhism or other things that seem beneficial for human development.

Also I do think humans can have a spiritual quality but something about the supreme creator idea seem off to me. It does seem like there is a great creative force of some kind but I'm not sure if it needs to be personified.

It's weird I get a very spiritual feeling of awe when I look at Deep Space Hubble pictures. Instead of a God though I wonder if it is all self creating or self replicating. Like Life in a way.



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02 Apr 2012, 3:20 pm

Alexender wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Funny it's only women who have to mummify themselves to be modest.


Now I wanted to post a picture of a man in a speedo, but I coudln't bring myself to google search that

I don't mind doing that :twisted:
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Bit airbrushed looking for my tastes, mind you.



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02 Apr 2012, 3:26 pm

That's impressive, actually.


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02 Apr 2012, 3:41 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Funny it's only women who have to mummify themselves to be modest.


But its not only women, men have a dress code too. Of course it is different than a womens but that is because men and women are different physically.

Men cover from there knees to there belly button.

Maybe it doesn't seem fair but women are treated as something very very very beautiful, more important and more beautiful than men. With out women, we wouldn't have life.

And it gives a women freedom from being judged by her looks, instead of her brains.

Plus she can dress in any color or style she wants, its not like she doesn't get to choose what she wears. And she doesn't have to cover in her home.



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02 Apr 2012, 3:52 pm

Like most atheists, I am an agnostic atheist. I grew up in a protestant religion called Christian Science. I came to realize that believing one person's (the founder of the religion) delusions without sufficient evidence is illogical. Such belief can snowball into magical thinking and a multitude of bad decisions. Other religions I have encountered have similar drawbacks. Using logic, evidence and Occam's Razor, I see no other conclusion than not to believe in any of the religions I have encountered.

I believe that those who believe in religions usually do so because they grew up (and were indoctrinated) in that religion, or because the religion they chose was comforting to them. The influence of others in their chosen religion also explains the current popularity of religion. Nothing succeeds like success. There are many disadvantages here in the US to be a public atheist. Many people who go to church don't really believe.



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02 Apr 2012, 4:02 pm

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Like most atheists, I am an agnostic atheist. I grew up in a protestant religion called Christian Science. I came to realize that believing one person's (the founder of the religion) delusions without sufficient evidence is illogical. Such belief can snowball into magical thinking and a multitude of bad decisions. Other religions I have encountered have similar drawbacks. Using logic, evidence and Occam's Razor, I see no other conclusion than not to believe in any of the religions I have encountered.

I believe that those who believe in religions usually do so because they grew up (and were indoctrinated) in that religion, or because the religion they chose was comforting to them. The influence of others in their chosen religion also explains the current popularity of religion. Nothing succeeds like success. There are many disadvantages here in the US to be a public atheist. Many people who go to church don't really believe.


I converted not because it was comforting because if i wanted to do that i would have picked a religion that my family liked.
I picked Islam because all of my questions were answered, they say the quran has lots of science in it, and i never had a time when i read it that i got confused and someone couldn't help me.
Islam seems to flow with nature to me.

Yeah i have noticed too that many people that go to church or call them self christian, don't actually believe. It makes me sad. I had a friend that doesn't even know if she believes in god but still called herself catholic because she was baptized when she was little. Well until i told her that she doesn't have to be catholic unless she wants to be lol



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02 Apr 2012, 4:06 pm

I'm atheist.



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02 Apr 2012, 4:08 pm

laylasmith wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Funny it's only women who have to mummify themselves to be modest.


But its not only women, men have a dress code too. Of course it is different than a womens but that is because men and women are different physically.

Men cover from there knees to there belly button.

Maybe it doesn't seem fair but women are treated as something very very very beautiful, more important and more beautiful than men. With out women, we wouldn't have life.

And it gives a women freedom from being judged by her looks, instead of her brains.

Plus she can dress in any color or style she wants, its not like she doesn't get to choose what she wears. And she doesn't have to cover in her home.


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02 Apr 2012, 4:19 pm

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I am an Atheist, because I prefer to see things as they are and not as a bunch of iron age goat farmers thought it was.


Yeah, I am sure the OP appreciates your candor.



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02 Apr 2012, 4:29 pm

laylasmith wrote:
Rocky wrote:
Like most atheists, I am an agnostic atheist. I grew up in a protestant religion called Christian Science. I came to realize that believing one person's (the founder of the religion) delusions without sufficient evidence is illogical. Such belief can snowball into magical thinking and a multitude of bad decisions. Other religions I have encountered have similar drawbacks. Using logic, evidence and Occam's Razor, I see no other conclusion than not to believe in any of the religions I have encountered.

I believe that those who believe in religions usually do so because they grew up (and were indoctrinated) in that religion, or because the religion they chose was comforting to them. The influence of others in their chosen religion also explains the current popularity of religion. Nothing succeeds like success. There are many disadvantages here in the US to be a public atheist. Many people who go to church don't really believe.


I converted not because it was comforting because if i wanted to do that i would have picked a religion that my family liked.
I picked Islam because all of my questions were answered, they say the quran has lots of science in it, and i never had a time when i read it that i got confused and someone couldn't help me.
Islam seems to flow with nature to me.

Yeah i have noticed too that many people that go to church or call them self christian, don't actually believe. It makes me sad. I had a friend that doesn't even know if she believes in god but still called herself catholic because she was baptized when she was little. Well until i told her that she doesn't have to be catholic unless she wants to be lol


Science does not answer every question. But it continues to work on the unknown questions. I like the fact that the current body of knowledge is subject to change if new evidence is found. Religions tend to start with a set of beliefs and do everything possible to justify those beliefs in the face of new evidence.



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02 Apr 2012, 4:58 pm

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Science does not answer every question. But it continues to work on the unknown questions. I like the fact that the current body of knowledge is subject to change if new evidence is found. Religions tend to start with a set of beliefs and do everything possible to justify those beliefs in the face of new evidence.


But i don't believe that religion and science should be apart. God gave us science in my opinion so they go together. And in Islam there is nothing saying that we can not accept science, because all of the mysteries of our world were created by God.



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02 Apr 2012, 5:01 pm

laylasmith wrote:
Rocky wrote:

Science does not answer every question. But it continues to work on the unknown questions. I like the fact that the current body of knowledge is subject to change if new evidence is found. Religions tend to start with a set of beliefs and do everything possible to justify those beliefs in the face of new evidence.


But i don't believe that religion and science should be apart. God gave us science in my opinion so they go together. And in Islam there is nothing saying that we can not accept science, because all of the mysteries of our world were created by God.


Science says that men and women are equal. Islam says they are not.


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02 Apr 2012, 5:17 pm

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laylasmith wrote:
Rocky wrote:

Science does not answer every question. But it continues to work on the unknown questions. I like the fact that the current body of knowledge is subject to change if new evidence is found. Religions tend to start with a set of beliefs and do everything possible to justify those beliefs in the face of new evidence.


But i don't believe that religion and science should be apart. God gave us science in my opinion so they go together. And in Islam there is nothing saying that we can not accept science, because all of the mysteries of our world were created by God.


Science says that men and women are equal. Islam says they are not.


Science does not say men and women are equal! Science would say women are far more important, especially in the area of perpetrating the species! Otherwise they are complimentary.