Was the world better today or 100 years ago?

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22 Apr 2012, 9:32 am

Did people s**t on streets 100 years ago? I would say yes. Since I don't have to smell crap when going anywhere, then I would say we are better now.


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22 Apr 2012, 9:46 am

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Everyone knows that the World was at its level best when Jesus was alive, and has been in decline ever since. Things won't get good again until Jesus returns to judge the quick and the dead.

Just ask any Conservative.


Actually...Gender inequality was at its highest at that time 8O


Are you very certain of that?



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22 Apr 2012, 10:06 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
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ArrantPariah wrote:
:roll:

Everyone knows that the World was at its level best when Jesus was alive, and has been in decline ever since. Things won't get good again until Jesus returns to judge the quick and the dead.

Just ask any Conservative.


Actually...Gender inequality was at its highest at that time 8O


Are you very certain of that?


Yeah, pretty much. Genderists only exist due to contents included in religious text such as The Fall. Where else would people get the idea that men are superior?
Sorry If you're a Christian..not trying to offend you anything.



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22 Apr 2012, 1:49 pm

ethically yes, technologically no.

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22 Apr 2012, 6:22 pm

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ethically yes
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How so, we have just passed the 100 year mark since the sinking of the titantic, you know the event where lifeboats were provided for less than half the passengers and crew, where the rich were led to the boats and the poor locked below. Capitalism was in crisis and millions of folk were about to be butchered in an attempt to maintain the status quo, we then enter a period where the working class is defeated in its attempt to over throw the ruling elite and then plunge headlong into the great depression, leading to the rise of hoover villes and the like.

So to answer the OP's question NO times were not better 100 years ago,

"there were no good old days, just bloody hard times" Gwen (my mother in law aged 92)


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22 Apr 2012, 6:30 pm

A 100 years ago I would have loved to be apart of Prussia



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22 Apr 2012, 8:51 pm

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ethically yes, technologically no.

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Ethically? With widespread discrimination against non-whites, women, anyone who wasn't a Protestant, who wasn't an Anglo-Saxon, or who wasn't part of the employing class? That's not to mention the wide spread alcoholism (which had ushered in Prohibition), and how not many years before in my own western United States, gun violence had been probably as epidemic as it is today. And that's not to mention how legal gambling was everywhere, and laws against prostitution weren't seriously enforced, and in fact was rampant in every city and town, large and small.

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22 Apr 2012, 9:03 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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ethically yes, technologically no.

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Ethically? With widespread discrimination against non-whites, women, anyone who wasn't a Protestant, who wasn't an Anglo-Saxon, or who wasn't part of the employing class? That's not to mention the wide spread alcoholism (which had ushered in Prohibition), and how not many years before in my own western United States, gun violence had been probably as epidemic as it is today. And that's not to mention how legal gambling was everywhere, and laws against prostitution weren't seriously enforced, and in fact was rampant in every city and town, large and small.

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me and Kriachgauer would have been killed by the vatican if it was a 100 years ago



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22 Apr 2012, 9:08 pm

If the question was 30 years ago, I'd be inclined to say yes. However, 100 years means no penicillin, little casual sex and widespread discrimination.



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22 Apr 2012, 9:49 pm

Not to forget that most of us would have an even worse time of it, with many being locked away in mental asylums ! !! !! !


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22 Apr 2012, 10:15 pm

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Not to forget that most of us would have an even worse time of it, with many being locked away in mental asylums ! !! !! !


That is truly a scary thought, especially since back then, such places existed to store "crazy people," rather than to help them.
At the very least, many of us would be village idiots.

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23 Apr 2012, 11:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
ethically yes, technologically no.

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Ethically? With widespread discrimination against non-whites, women, anyone who wasn't a Protestant, who wasn't an Anglo-Saxon, or who wasn't part of the employing class? That's not to mention the wide spread alcoholism (which had ushered in Prohibition), and how not many years before in my own western United States, gun violence had been probably as epidemic as it is today. And that's not to mention how legal gambling was everywhere, and laws against prostitution weren't seriously enforced, and in fact was rampant in every city and town, large and small.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


There was a firmer standard of right and wrong (which you may not agree with). These days, ethical boundaries are made of rubber. Compare the ethics of the Founders of the Republic to the political crew we have today.

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23 Apr 2012, 11:39 am

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There was a firmer standard of right and wrong (which you may not agree with). These days, ethical boundaries are made of rubber. Compare the ethics of the Founders of the Republic to the political crew we have today.

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In all fairness they were mostly slave owners, who regularly cheated on their wives with their slaves and so on. The main difference is that the founding fathers were the intellectual giants of their day, whereas modern politicians are mostly intellectual pygmies.



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23 Apr 2012, 11:42 am

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ethically yes, technologically no.

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Ethically? With widespread discrimination against non-whites, women, anyone who wasn't a Protestant, who wasn't an Anglo-Saxon, or who wasn't part of the employing class? That's not to mention the wide spread alcoholism (which had ushered in Prohibition), and how not many years before in my own western United States, gun violence had been probably as epidemic as it is today. And that's not to mention how legal gambling was everywhere, and laws against prostitution weren't seriously enforced, and in fact was rampant in every city and town, large and small.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


There was a firmer standard of right and wrong (which you may not agree with). These days, ethical boundaries are made of rubber. Compare the ethics of the Founders of the Republic to the political crew we have today.

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As a matter of fact, a hundred years ago corruption and cronyism were just as alive in government and business as they are today - but politicians and business leaders were arguably more open about it.
I'm not talking about the founders, I'm talking about how things were a century ago.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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23 Apr 2012, 1:05 pm

Obviously the world is much better now than it was back then. We've come a long way with technology and societal attitudes.



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23 Apr 2012, 7:26 pm

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In all fairness they were mostly slave owners, who regularly cheated on their wives with their slaves and so on. The main difference is that the founding fathers were the intellectual giants of their day, whereas modern politicians are mostly intellectual pygmies.


Ben Franklin owned no slaves. The northern Founders were not only not slave owners, they opposed slavery on moral or ethical grounds.

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