Last Call for Christianity

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One reason that Christianity has failed miserably is that many individuals such as myself have read the entire Holy Book.

Of course it's biased but it make sense, and bias doesn't make it wrong

Cigarettes in the 50's were shown to not be bad for people, it made sense, a lot of people smoked them so how could they be bad for people? I wonder who funded those studies

Just watched a video that explains why believers feel so bad about atheists, why they feel rejected :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8ZMMuu7MU[/youtube]

No matter how unreliable you think radiometric dating is, it can never be more unreliable than faith.

Right. It made sense because the "experts" told them that there was nothing wrong with smoking. This article makes sense because it doesn't just tell you the Bible is true, it tells you why. If you haven't read the article, I would recommend it.

Faith AND reason: Believing something, but questioning it to see if it makes sense. With Christianity, it does.

I've really enjoyed all this arguing about faith (no sarcasm, I really did) but that's not what I made the thread for. Is anyone interested in working with me on this?

If you start with faith you are denying reason. If you seek the truth go do the research in an unbiased manner without prejudice either way and see where it leads.

Good luck anyway.

No, most people believe in the very fundamental roots of christianity. Since the 1930's, however, America, and thus Christianity, has been overcome by demagogues (think Leo Strauss). Intended with this is the mixture of politics with those same roots that most people believe. Morality becomes an oxymoron. "One Nation, Under God" has taken to mean we do no evil, for instance in South America. Is it right for us to assassinate elected leaders so that we can install those who will work with us better? No, but you talk to most southern Christians and they either don't care or question the higher purpose in it. Faith alone is absolutely nuts, you just throw some ideas under the namebrand "Jesus" and they don't question what your selling. These days it has nothing to do with the "good works of Jesus" it's about how you package Him and his good works with socio-political policies that are just flat amoral. What I'm saying is religions like Christianity train the mind to think in a certain way that lacks better judgement. Prior to the 1930's most if not all religious organisation stood apart from American politics. Political mobility started after the Great Depression, and has steadily risen since then. The ideas you seem to convey existed in America for the first 175 years. But in truth religion was more a community ideal, rather than one which should be spread on soapboxes.

I can't agree with the idea that you need a false understanding of the world to cope with it. You don't need any higher understanding to "cope". And I'm not saying that because it gives reassurance, that is why it is false. I'm saying it is false and the hope it gives is hollow and a waste of one's mental resources to truly overcome what ails them.

Hey, you're the one that said "When people said our faith was false, we would answer them!". So why not answer me here? You can start by demonstrating your "reason" for having faith that your god exists.

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I can PROVE that my God "The fluffy pink unicorn" exists. Not only do I feel it in my heart but he gives purpose to my life. I know he lives in my kitchen cupboard too because he sometimes makes scratching noises in there and eats little bits of cheese. Last night I prayed for another sign, and this morning there were tiny little black currants on the kitchen shelf for me to eat. Hallelujah! All praise to the fluffy pink unicorn, the creator of all.

I already did, but my question was if anyone wanted to work with me and nobody replied. If you want to do your own research on this, you really should. I mean, you have an internet connection
Unfortunately I just can't argue with everyone myself, but I can show you one more thing:
Six Reasons
(Again, biased, I know, but please read)

I'll start reading that while you listen to this, at least for a bit.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri3-DpSn7AA[/youtube]

I took the bait and had a read. Sorry, but what a load of naive crap. They are trying to bait those ignorant of science with colourful but completely baseless arguments. Go deeper and do some studying on these topics. I already did so, spending many years at university studying the sciences and frankly the stuff on that site is laughable in its naivety.

Christianity is pointless