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22 Jul 2012, 9:39 am

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Not every person is reasonable. :)

There are some people who do become quite seriously interested in religion.
I couldn't have put it any better, myself. :)



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22 Jul 2012, 9:41 am

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Converting to any missionary religion is going to be less involved than converting to a non-missionary one.
Definitely, because it's the goal of missionaries to convince/persuade one to convert. In Judaism, rabbis generally dissuade one from converting.



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22 Jul 2012, 9:51 am

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
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Converting to any missionary religion is going to be less involved than converting to a non-missionary one.
Definitely, because it's the goal of missionaries to convince/persuade one to convert. In Judaism, rabbis generally dissuade one from converting.


I'm looking to become a recognised lay Buddhist and I find the monks I deal with neither persuade or dissuade me. They only guide people who ask. I have to make the effort to seek.

What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?


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22 Jul 2012, 9:54 am

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What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?
Orthodoxy; yes, I am slightly 'crackers' for wanting to do so, but I'm actually drawn to the lifestyle. :)



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22 Jul 2012, 9:57 am

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
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What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?
Orthodoxy; yes, I am slightly 'crackers' for wanting to do so, but I'm actually drawn to the lifestyle. :)


I know someone who converted to Judaism who is really frum and should have converted Orthodox given her lifestyle, however she found the Orthodox synagogue too sexist. So she is now the most frum person in her Reform synagogue.


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22 Jul 2012, 10:01 am

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KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?
Orthodoxy; yes, I am slightly 'crackers' for wanting to do so, but I'm actually drawn to the lifestyle. :)


I know someone who converted to Judaism who is really frum and should have converted Orthodox given her lifestyle, however she found the Orthodox synagogue too sexist. So she is now the most frum person in her Reform synagogue.
That's really cool that she sets her own trend in a Reform shul; she sounds dedicated. It's a shame that the Orthodox shul was a bit sexist, though.



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22 Jul 2012, 10:05 am

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?
Orthodoxy; yes, I am slightly 'crackers' for wanting to do so, but I'm actually drawn to the lifestyle. :)


I know someone who converted to Judaism who is really frum and should have converted Orthodox given her lifestyle, however she found the Orthodox synagogue too sexist. So she is now the most frum person in her Reform synagogue.
That's really cool that she sets her own trend in a Reform shul; she sounds dedicated. It's a shame that the Orthodox shul was a bit sexist, though.


From what I understand, all Orthodox shuls are in the sense that women can't participate as much in the worship.


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22 Jul 2012, 10:26 am

Lots and lots of Koreans have turned to Christianity. Very, very few to Judaism.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z41XeWOQco8[/youtube]



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22 Jul 2012, 10:35 am

puddingmouse wrote:
KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
What type of Judaism are you thinking of converting to?
Orthodoxy; yes, I am slightly 'crackers' for wanting to do so, but I'm actually drawn to the lifestyle. :)


I know someone who converted to Judaism who is really frum and should have converted Orthodox given her lifestyle, however she found the Orthodox synagogue too sexist. So she is now the most frum person in her Reform synagogue.
That's really cool that she sets her own trend in a Reform shul; she sounds dedicated. It's a shame that the Orthodox shul was a bit sexist, though.


From what I understand, all Orthodox shuls are in the sense that women can't participate as much in the worship.
They can't sing, but they can pray, although out of sight of the men; usually above the men on an overlooking balcony or behind some sort of fencing/wall. Some just have separate gender seating.



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22 Jul 2012, 10:51 am

I've always had a bit of an interest in Jewish angeology (the modern-day Christian version is a shame and disgrace to the theologians that came before it). I mine it for a lot of inspiration for RPGs and the like, and it makes an interesting study on its own merits. I'm a particular fan of Domiel, the Angel of Silence.


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22 Jul 2012, 11:13 am

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I've always had a bit of an interest in Jewish angeology (the modern-day Christian version is a shame and disgrace to the theologians that came before it). I mine it for a lot of inspiration for RPGs and the like, and it makes an interesting study on its own merits. I'm a particular fan of Domiel, the Angel of Silence.
Sounds interesting. :)



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22 Jul 2012, 1:45 pm

I don't care much for the Jewish diet. I like pork, ostrich meat, clams, lobsters, shrimp, cheeseburgers, etc.

Cold gefilte fish is unappetizing.



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22 Jul 2012, 6:53 pm

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I don't care much for the Jewish diet. I like pork, ostrich meat, clams, lobsters, shrimp, cheeseburgers, etc.

Cold gefilte fish is unappetizing.
I like the dietary laws; even though I haven't even started the conversion process yet, I've already given up pork and shellfish (I never really ate pork and shellfish used to make me vomit). I also don't mix dairy and meat; I make sure I wait a few hours between consuming them after the other...I honestly don't know how I'm going to cope with the gefilte fish because I absolutely despise fish.



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22 Jul 2012, 7:02 pm

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:

From what I understand, all Orthodox shuls are in the sense that women can't participate as much in the worship.
They can't sing, but they can pray, although out of sight of the men; usually above the men on an overlooking balcony or behind some sort of fencing/wall. Some just have separate gender seating.[/quote]

A separation wall or barrier is erected in Orthodox synagogues. It is called a m'cheetza from the Hebrew chetzi which means to halve or divide.

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23 Jul 2012, 2:36 am

A separation wall or barrier is erected in Orthodox synagogues. It is called a m'cheetza from the Hebrew chetzi which means to halve or divide.

ruveyn[/quote]Yes, that's what it's called; I'd heard the word before, but forgot it...thanks! :)



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25 Jul 2012, 5:52 pm

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
Converting to any missionary religion is going to be less involved than converting to a non-missionary one.
Definitely, because it's the goal of missionaries to convince/persuade one to convert. In Judaism, rabbis generally dissuade one from converting.


That's because Judaism is a tool for the genetic preservation of the race that created it. In other words, it's (shock, horror) racist.