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01 Sep 2012, 3:20 am

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I beg to differ. I think the GOP brass have just handed the Tea Party all the rope that they want, and are going to watch while the Tea Party and the Democrats go picnicking over one another. Good application of game theory if your are in for the long haul, says I.


I wasn't talking about the Tea Party, I was talking about what went on with the Paul delegates, and how in my estimation Romney really can't win without drawing in some non-traditional GOP voters. Maybe he couldn't have outright won their votes, but by spitting on them the way he did he's made enemies he didn't need to, and I think that's going to cost him come November.


All good for my team. :lol:

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01 Sep 2012, 10:28 am

/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


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01 Sep 2012, 10:53 am

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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.



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01 Sep 2012, 11:57 am

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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.


Thank you.

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01 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm

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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.


Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.
No, your boy Barack was supposed to do something about the economy but in the real world that hasn't seemed to have flowed down to us peasants yet.


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01 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm

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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.


Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.
No, your boy Barack was supposed to do something about the economy but in the real world that hasn't seemed to have flowed down to us peasants yet.


Over half of the $3.74 is state and federal taxes.

That is why the price of gas is so variable. The taxes vary from State to State.

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01 Sep 2012, 12:24 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.


Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.
No, your boy Barack was supposed to do something about the economy but in the real world that hasn't seemed to have flowed down to us peasants yet.


Over half of the $3.74 is state and federal taxes.

That is why the price of gas is so variable. The taxes vary from State to State.

ruveyn


I don't like being taxed to death, either....


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01 Sep 2012, 1:50 pm

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/\ Yeah, another four years of spending and hand kissing yet doing nothing constructive./\


In your mind "doing something constructive" means doing only what the right-wing wants. Besides, in your mind the only "constructive" role of government is lining the pockets of big oil and defense contractors and starting wars.


Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.
No, your boy Barack was supposed to do something about the economy but in the real world that hasn't seemed to have flowed down to us peasants yet.


Sorry to burst your bubble but I think you have some irrational expectations there if you expect the president to control gasoline prices to your liking. You'll be better off writing in Hugo Chaves if that's what you want. Only a socialist president has the power to dictate prices like that. It's also funny that you probably didn't have such ridiculous expectations of Bush when gas prices were skyrocketing in his latter term as president.

We're accessing more domestic sources than ever before but the problem is the new sources are much more expensive to access than the formerly cheap OPEC sources that are experiencing higher and higher demand due to the Chinese and Indians driving more and more these days.

Perhaps we could bomb the rest of the developing world back into the stone age and then we would have all the oil for ourselves once again. We'd also get our manufacturing back. Sounds like a pretty sweat deal. :roll: The only other option is to crash the economy and go into massive deflation. Prices will go down because nobody will be able to afford to drive anymore. :lol:

Oh yea. Barack isn't "my boy". Stop hallucinating.



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01 Sep 2012, 2:00 pm

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Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.


In Europe we pay over double the price of petrol than what you do. Come back to me when you regularly pay $8.30 per US gallon.

(It's no coincidence that roads into Gibraltar are choc-a-bloc with Spaniards very happy to pay $6 a gallon.)



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01 Sep 2012, 2:51 pm

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All good for my team. :lol:

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Don't worry, the DNC is coming up and they'll be plenty of chances for embarrassing gaffes. I know that OWS is planning a major presence, so perhaps Michael Moore will show up and attempt to pass himself off as poor again; one can always hope.


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01 Sep 2012, 3:30 pm

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Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.


In Europe we pay over double the price of petrol than what you do. Come back to me when you regularly pay $8.30 per US gallon.

(It's no coincidence that roads into Gibraltar are choc-a-bloc with Spaniards very happy to pay $6 a gallon.)


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$3.74 or $8.30, both are way too high.
Two wrongs don't make a right.


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01 Sep 2012, 3:57 pm

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Big oil? Yeah, like I enjoy paying $3.74 for a gallon of gasoline when I have to drive 50+ miles every day.


In Europe we pay over double the price of petrol than what you do. Come back to me when you regularly pay $8.30 per US gallon.

(It's no coincidence that roads into Gibraltar are choc-a-bloc with Spaniards very happy to pay $6 a gallon.)


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$3.74 or $8.30, both are way too high.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

What if Obama nationalized oil and gave it to us for free? :lol:



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01 Sep 2012, 4:00 pm

My point is that Americans are somewhat cushioned from high petrol prices - i.e. they haven't seen just how expensive petrol can be in Europe. I suppose the other point is that Britain and Ireland are in many areas more like America than much of continental Europe when it comes to public transport. People use public transport a lot less because it's inconvenient and expensive.

Incidentally, Norway is oil-rich yet has even higher petrol prices than the UK. It's the most expensive place to buy petrol in Europe I think.



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01 Sep 2012, 4:43 pm

Norway doesnt mind paying more to have a high standard of living for it's people.

The same reason I pay a penny or two more at Costco over Sam's Club and know that the employees are making ~$17 / hour and getting health benefits.



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01 Sep 2012, 5:55 pm

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My point is that Americans are somewhat cushioned from high petrol prices - i.e. they haven't seen just how expensive petrol can be in Europe. I suppose the other point is that Britain and Ireland are in many areas more like America than much of continental Europe when it comes to public transport. People use public transport a lot less because it's inconvenient and expensive.

Incidentally, Norway is oil-rich yet has even higher petrol prices than the UK. It's the most expensive place to buy petrol in Europe I think.


We are paying less for petrol only because we are getting f#cked less than you are, that's all. Being f#cked less shouldn't be seen as having it cushy.


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01 Sep 2012, 6:04 pm

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Norway doesnt mind paying more to have a high standard of living for it's people.

If you mean high standard of living via government handouts funded by gas tax then I'll take cheap gas and pay my own way for my standard of living any day.

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The same reason I pay a penny or two more at Costco over Sam's Club and know that the employees are making ~$17 / hour and getting health benefits.

I'll pay a little more to a supplier that takes good care of it's employees but I do that voluntarily.


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