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17 Oct 2012, 11:29 am

ruveyn wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
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The almighty Robert Trivers (Peace Be Upon Him) suggested that human intellect evolved in an evolutionary arms race between cheaters and cheater detectors. One of the reasons why they slapped a Nobel Prize on John Forbes Nash.

http://www.cdnresearch.net/pubs/others/ ... _recip.pdf (see page 54)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_arms_race

It is therefore quite plausible that humans have "more" cognition than actually necessary for simple survival. Survival just wasn't simple in the Pleistocene.

From the perspective of macroevolution, it may thus at first glance seem odd that humans have such a high brain-to-body mass ratio, but if we need to be smart in order to be good at backstabbing others while avoiding being stabbed in the back by others, then it suddenly makes much more sense.

Simplicity itself!


Fascinating......got a bit complicated, but still.... I'll have to read it again.....


Fascinating! Brains made for more social interfacing and networking in the first place. And then living in society became a Darwinian Challenge that required even more brains. And so it goes. If the theory is true, we should be getting smarter and smarter over the eons.

ruveyn


Except human evolution has mostly stopped. I blame the smart ass who discovered fire.



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17 Oct 2012, 4:11 pm

GGPViper wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
The almighty Robert Trivers (Peace Be Upon Him) suggested that human intellect evolved in an evolutionary arms race between cheaters and cheater detectors. One of the reasons why they slapped a Nobel Prize on John Forbes Nash.

http://www.cdnresearch.net/pubs/others/ ... _recip.pdf (see page 54)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_arms_race

It is therefore quite plausible that humans have "more" cognition than actually necessary for simple survival. Survival just wasn't simple in the Pleistocene.

From the perspective of macroevolution, it may thus at first glance seem odd that humans have such a high brain-to-body mass ratio, but if we need to be smart in order to be good at backstabbing others while avoiding being stabbed in the back by others, then it suddenly makes much more sense.

Simplicity itself!


Fascinating......got a bit complicated, but still.... I'll have to read it again.....


Fascinating! Brains made for more social interfacing and networking in the first place. And then living in society became a Darwinian Challenge that required even more brains. And so it goes. If the theory is true, we should be getting smarter and smarter over the eons.

ruveyn


Except human evolution has mostly stopped. I blame the smart ass who discovered fire.


Maybe our next evolutionary step in intelligence and brain growth will be guided by how much information we have access to and how quickly we can learn. Which you gotta wonder how that would be affected by facebook, MTV, and Spongebob....


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17 Oct 2012, 4:13 pm

knowbody15 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
The almighty Robert Trivers (Peace Be Upon Him) suggested that human intellect evolved in an evolutionary arms race between cheaters and cheater detectors. One of the reasons why they slapped a Nobel Prize on John Forbes Nash.

http://www.cdnresearch.net/pubs/others/ ... _recip.pdf (see page 54)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_arms_race

It is therefore quite plausible that humans have "more" cognition than actually necessary for simple survival. Survival just wasn't simple in the Pleistocene.

From the perspective of macroevolution, it may thus at first glance seem odd that humans have such a high brain-to-body mass ratio, but if we need to be smart in order to be good at backstabbing others while avoiding being stabbed in the back by others, then it suddenly makes much more sense.

Simplicity itself!


Fascinating......got a bit complicated, but still.... I'll have to read it again.....


Fascinating! Brains made for more social interfacing and networking in the first place. And then living in society became a Darwinian Challenge that required even more brains. And so it goes. If the theory is true, we should be getting smarter and smarter over the eons.

ruveyn


Except human evolution has mostly stopped. I blame the smart ass who discovered fire.


Maybe our next evolutionary step in intelligence and brain growth will be guided by how much information we have access to and how quickly we can learn. Which you gotta wonder how that would be affected by facebook, MTV, and Spongebob....


I am agnostic about the existence of information on Facebook.